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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Page 2 of 4 1 2 3 4 Re: New World Symphony #165196 01/17/07 08:22 PM 01/17/07 08:22 PM Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,538 this too shall pass tsuwm Carpal Tunnel tsuwm   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Apr 2000 Posts: 10,538 this too shall pass from the wiki article on QWERTY: The QWERTY arrangement solved the jamming problem not by forcing typists to slow down, but by separating common sequences of letters in English. Pairs of keys that are frequently struck in succession were placed as far from each other as possible, so that the hammers that were likely to be used in quick succession were less likely to interfere with each other. [EA] Re: New World Symphony #165197 01/17/07 08:29 PM 01/17/07 08:29 PM Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 5,400 rego park of troy Carpal Tunnel of troy   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 5,400 rego park one of my friend who is professional secretary, finds on keyboard vs typewriters, (even electron typewriters)she can type faster. her top speed on a typewriting is about 90wpm, on keyboard typing tests, (for job interview) she has hit 108wpm! with out any mechanical systems, she can do it faster. --me? i am lucky if i type 40wpm! my other obsession Re: New World Symphony #165198 01/18/07 01:00 AM 01/18/07 01:00 AM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Quote: Fal: '"This is spam" button saves you from seeing more spam of the same type,...' ***Forgive if I wasn't clear. I don't think it's even feasible to write an algorithm that can reliably distinguish spam, as compared with the human mind which can do so within a second. It is the subsequent five seconds of his life that are wasted Certainly the human mind can (but isn't always) much better than any algorithm but there are some pretty good spam filters out there. We have one on our email service where I work that cut my spam load from about 50-100 a day before we went to the service to no more than 5 after we went to it. Re: New World Symphony #165199 01/18/07 03:25 PM 01/18/07 03:25 PM Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,773 Apple Valley, CA, USA D dalehileman OP Pooh-Bah dalehileman   OP Pooh-Bah D Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,773 Apple Valley, CA, USA Really! If it's no trouble, and if possible, can you briefly explain how it works as I'm sure others of us would be equally interested--thanks--Dale dalehileman Re: New World Symphony #165200 01/18/07 11:37 PM 01/18/07 11:37 PM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Quote: Really! If it's no trouble, and if possible, can you briefly explain how it works as I'm sure others of us would be equally interested--thanks--Dale How it works? Pretty good, I'd say. Re: New World Symphony #165201 01/19/07 05:05 PM 01/19/07 05:05 PM Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,773 Apple Valley, CA, USA D dalehileman OP Pooh-Bah dalehileman   OP Pooh-Bah D Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,773 Apple Valley, CA, USA Fal: Sorry my q wasn't clear as so often happens. What I meant was, how does the algorithm distinguish between the characteristics of a spam and those of other communiques without inadvertently deleting an occasional instance of the latter dalehileman SPAM: How It Works #165202 01/19/07 07:15 PM 01/19/07 07:15 PM Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 293 Orlando ParkinT enthusiast ParkinT   enthusiast Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 293 Orlando I believe the operation is much simpler than you surmized. Pressing the "This is Spam" button: 1. moves the currently selected message to the Anti-Virus Quarantine 2. records the sender in order to 'capture' future messages automatically There is no magic. And I would offer, to the original comment about the time it takes when you "press the button". That is an investment. Every future message, from that sender, will be automatically removed. Consider the time as 'training' your software. Re: SPAM: How It Works #165203 01/19/07 09:23 PM 01/19/07 09:23 PM Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,773 Apple Valley, CA, USA D dalehileman OP Pooh-Bah dalehileman   OP Pooh-Bah D Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,773 Apple Valley, CA, USA Parkin: 1. moves the currently selected message to the Anti-Virus Quarantine ***Sorry for once again not being clear. I realize that's what happens to it, but my complaint involves the duration of the move 2. records the sender in order to 'capture' future messages automatically ***I wasn't aware of that and thanks for the tip. However, that feature doesn't do much good because with 99.9 per cent of spam the sender changes at each transmission dalehileman Re: New World Symphony #165204 01/19/07 11:18 PM 01/19/07 11:18 PM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Quote: Fal: Sorry my q wasn't clear as so often happens. What I meant was, how does the algorithm distinguish between the characteristics of a spam and those of other communiques without inadvertently deleting an occasional instance of the latter It doesn't. They're called false positives. Hopefully it doesn't delete the messages that it has identified as spam, but puts them in a folder that you can go through regularly. You can then let the email handler know that a specific message is not spam. Re: New World Symphony #165205 01/20/07 04:01 PM 01/20/07 04:01 PM Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,773 Apple Valley, CA, USA D dalehileman OP Pooh-Bah dalehileman   OP Pooh-Bah D Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,773 Apple Valley, CA, USA Fal: Thank you once again for the clarification. However, the principal advantage of the spam folder is precisely that you can delete the entire contents of the folder without having to browse the listing Nonetheless I very much appreciate your help in these matters dalehileman Page 2 of 4 1 2 3 4 Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------   Information and announcements   Q&A about words   Wordplay and fun   Words and languages in schools   Miscellany   Weekly Themes   Looking for (writers, speakers, ...) (Old) Weekly themes. 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