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#163988 - 12/03/06 05:02 PM Farther vs. Further  
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I am having difficulty finding an authoritative source that can provide the distinction between these two words.
Is there a difference?
There are times when intuitively, one seems a better choice.
"The farther I reach the further away the item drifts".
But, I cannot provide a real REASON behind this instinct.

Anyone have more details?


"I am certain there is too much certainty in the world" -Michael Crichton
#163989 - 12/03/06 05:45 PM Re: Farther vs. Further  
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this too shall pass

#163990 - 12/03/06 05:55 PM Re: Farther vs. Further  
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I am having difficulty finding an authoritative source that can provide the distinction between these two words.
Is there a difference?
There are times when intuitively, one seems a better choice.
"The farther I reach the further away the item drifts".
But, I cannot provide a real REASON behind this instinct.

Anyone have more details?




The details are abstract.
Take Little Willie John for example. He sang...

Further on up the road
When I'm all alone and blue
Like you mistreated somebody
Someone's gonna mistreat you.


So you see "further", is not normanlly used as a particular for "farther" , but it is most time used as adverb to denote a distance or time in the abstract.

The reason?
A distinction was needed when referring to a hypothetical and folks like Little Willie John know best.

EDIT:Also, what tsuwm said.

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#163991 - 12/03/06 08:22 PM Re: Farther vs. Further  
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Also, the former word is holy, since many Christians begin their prayer:

Our farther, which art in heaven. . . ..

You NEVER hear of that for further.


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#163992 - 12/04/06 02:15 AM Re: Farther vs. Further  
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I dunno. Billy Graham used to pray to "ow fatha."

#163993 - 12/04/06 07:22 PM Re: Farther vs. Further  
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Also, the former word is holy, since many Christians begin their prayer:

Our farther, which art in heaven. . . ..

You NEVER hear of that for further.



Yes, and God's name is Howard because that prayer continues,
"..Howard be thy name..."


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#163994 - 12/05/06 01:14 AM Re: Farther vs. Further  
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And all these years I thought it was "Hollow Ed"!

#163995 - 12/05/06 02:07 AM Re: Farther vs. Further  
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Yer both wrong. It's Harold.

#163996 - 12/05/06 12:13 PM Re: harold  
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As in "Hark, the harold angels sing..."?

#163997 - 12/05/06 07:40 PM Re: Farther vs. Further  
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Quote:

distance vs. extent, degree




Nice basic language information Tsuwm and lo! an obvious link!

Especially with Themilum's exemplary and charming songlines.

Asked or not asked for my opinion, I simply appreciate this.

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