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bespoke (for our English correspondents #16269
01/21/01 03:58 PM
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In a novel I was reading yesterday I found the following: "He wore an English bespoke suit." The OED says that bespoken has a meaning of "ordered". Do I assume correctly that bespoke suit mean one that is tailored as opposed to off-the-rack?



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Re: bespoke (for our English correspondents #16270
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Yep, you got it in one. I bespeak my suits from a tailor in Singapore - cheaper and generally better quality than off-the-peg here in New Zealand and several miles cheaper than bespoke tailors here.



The idiot also known as Capfka ...
Re: bespoke (for our English correspondents #16271
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I like this citation, from Punch:
A ‘Special Collection’ which is, in harsh reality, a collection of bargain bespokes.


Re: bespoke (for our English correspondents #16272
01/23/01 08:45 PM
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Hi TEd,

I notice my English brethren and sistren (?) have deigned not to post on this one, probably because your question appeared to have been answered.

But I have to throw in that I've hardly ever heard of bespoke suits, even if I know what they are. You can get tailored suits, and that's it. I admit to the possibility that I may not be moving in the right circles.

However, we talk about bespoke software (meaning customised rather than shrink-wrapped), and I think I've heard talk of bespoke cars as an alternate term for kit cars - where you order in the bits you want and assemble a unique heap of junk that costs you a fortune.

Fisk

Oh yes Happy New Year everyone.



Re: Geschwister - why not? #16273
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After a marathon period of piscine pedalling away from here, Shona returned with I notice my English brethren and sistren (?)

Can any of our phine philologists tell me if English ever had a word like the German Geschwister? I've always thought that it was particularly handy, not to mention that its close connexion with schwester over bruder intrigued me from an herstorical perspective.


Re: Shona, you snake #16274
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Shona wishes us "Happy New Year everyone"

Thank you and the same to you.


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To you all ... Happy New Year, Jan. 23, 4699
From my pal who is heavily into Chinese culture, comes the following for your interest: 4966, the year of the metal yin Snake. Yin means receptive, interior, female.
Snake compass point is South/SouthEast
Snake time of the day is 9 to 11 a.m.
Snake season is Spring to Summer.
Snake is inherently fire. Fire melts metal thus a controlling cycle governs this year.
In other cultures the years are :
Islamic 1421
Christian 2001
Hindu 2056,
Chinese 4699
Jewish 5761.
The Snake is a highly spiritual symbol, a symbol of renewal and rebirth and, some say, the soul of the dragon. Women born in Snake years are considered the most beautiful... a great compliment in Asian cultures is to say "You are a veritable Snake of a woman."
Guess who was born in the year of the Snake !
wow


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isn't it amazing how millions and millions of people born in the same year will all have the same characteristics?



Re: Happy 4699 #16277
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In other cultures the years are :
Islamic 1421
Christian 2001
Hindu 2056,
Chinese 4699
Jewish 5761.


Did the Chinese or Jewish cultures run into any problems with the Y2K bug a few thousand years ago, or did they find some way around it?


Re: Happy 4699 #16278
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Thank you for that, wow. I am a snake, too, and hadn't quite figured it was my year again (I'm a late-blooming-boomer-kinda-serpent).

(I just KNEW we had something in common!)

Tsuwm, read my lips:



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