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You are so right, words and their correct pronunciations----Who is correct? We will never ever know. I am from Wisconsin and now live in Eastern Ohio near Pittsburgh and to hear the name Cinncinnati pronounced just kills me----the regionals say "Cinncinaata" and here is another one that kills me--------
"Awl youse" (All you) But actually, we should just learn to accept people and the way they say things---We have a German exchange student with us and he always insults the way us Americans do things or say things-----Well I think that when we go to Germany----we would be sent back if we sounded as insulting as him.
"When in Rome, do as the Romans do" as the old saying goes and it seems people have forgotten that.
And how about this one--"Are ya goin to get yor hairs cut."
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the regionals say "Cinncinaata"

Excuse me? I've never heard anyone who actually lives in the Cincinnati area call it "Cincinnaata." My grandmother who lives in northern Ohio, though . . .


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Well, catharse all you want with your squankings, but please let me get out of earshot.

How can you say this? Jazz has produced some of the most beautiful songs ever conceived. Just to name a few that you might want to check out:
Louis Armstrong: West End Blues
Bix Beiderbecke: Singin' the Blues
Rhapsody in Blue
Count Basie: Jumpin' at the Woodside
Artie Shaw: Begin the Beguine
Erroll Garner: Misty
Anything Billie Holiday or Lester Young
Miles Davis: Kind of Blue
Dave Brubeck/Paul Desmond: Blue Rhondo ala Turk, Take Five
Body and Soul

I'm sure these would change your mind about the "squankings." (Obviously, you don't want to listen to Charlie Parker.)

Jazz is America's music. It's creative, lively, beautiful and inspiring all at the same time. The amount of emotion that some of these artists had was astounding. Jazz fueled the roaring '20s and got the nation through the Depression and it's not something to brushed aside as wasteful, meaningless noise.

Info on the thrilling 'Jazz' documentary can be found at http://www.pbs.org/jazz


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To blend a couple of apposite aphorisms, or trite truisms, Jazz, we must remember that, while music may be the food of love, what is one person's meat is another's poison. For instance, and I hope Bingley will take no offence at this, gamelan music fits the "poison" category for me.


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Notice how that list uses a lot of the word "blue"...

I have to protest - even if only from exposure - Erroll Garner's Misty has lost all of it's appeal (I just played the damn thing too many times...it's that whole repetition thing (Hi Marty) - no matter who plays it, sings it, tap's it or otherwise, and it really wasn't that much of a "jazz" tune "to begin with".

She probably wouldn't want to listen to early Lester Young, either...

...but Jazz can be ugly and sickening (and wasteful and meaningless), and that, too, is appealing!

JazzO - We'll have to start A Jazz A Day if we keep this up "publicly"...


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Thanks soooo much for correcting me. Regionals could mean local area or statewide and since I am from Wisconsin, I thought that perhaps that is the way Cinncinnati is pronouced here----I never corrected those that said it. So now I know---since I live near Akron, Ohio and you said your Grandmother in Northern Ohio----well then I guess it is only the Northeast Ohio natives that say it. Thanks again, Jazzoctopus. Keep up the great work. You sound like a great kid.

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As catalyst for the sidetrack onto jazz and the relative merits (or demerits) of jazz and bluegrass music, I wish to state for the record that this Kentuckian owns a number of jazz tapes and CD's, but none of the bluegrass variety. I must confess a preference for horses to octopi, but this could be due to lack of familiarity with the latter, and should not be taken as any sort of personal slight.


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A lot of people in Kentucky say "Cincinnaata".


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In reply to:

For instance, and I hope Bingley will take no offence at this, gamelan music fits the "poison" category for me.


Well, there's gamelan and gamelan. I find Sundanese music pleasant background music, but I'm not too keen on Balinese -- it sounds very jerky to me. Javanese can be very soothing. Of course, Indonesians have a very different attitude to it from what we have. You're not really supposed to sit down and listen to it as "great art". It is there for accompaniment to other activities. It's always fun to watch foreigners sitting very seriously at a performance while the locals wander about chatting and occasionally glancing at the stage.

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Love jazz, Jazz.

In particular Dave Brubeck's "Take Five". I've been playing it a lot recently, having taken the decision to mark the end of the last millennium by purchasing all the recordings that I had always planned to get but had never got round to.


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