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#159341 07/04/06 10:31 AM
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First of all, I'm new here and feel a total stranger in this playground.It'll take a while to adjust. But beeing a painter the word color immediately rings a bell and I want to put in a first careful comment. I would like to add that in different disciplines the names of colors differ too. The printer's names are not the same as the painter's names. In fashion and interieur design the range of color's differ too. Maybe it is not of great matter in this topic , but it's true that I wonder about the names of the computerprinting colors. Exept for magenta so much is different.
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Welcome aBoard, BranS. Glad you decided to join us.

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Welcome, BranS. (hi, Connie! ) I'm going to let boronia know you're here: she visited The Hague not too long ago, and loved it.
You said in different disciplines the names of colors differ too. In what way(s), please? Names of tints, shades, or hues? Surely the basics remain the same: blue is blue, etc.?

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i am facinated by color.
there was (back in 1987 or so) a book written about color and how human eyes see color. some things take their color because of the arraingement of the atoms in the crystals (gems) and chrome come to mind (chrome, in it various salts, will appear green, yellow or red!)

i have a pantone book of colors, its a nice standard for reference. (Pantone is primarily a printers color guide) but many fashion items are referenced with pantone color names and numbers. (my apartment is painted with custom colored paints, using the pantone swatches).

i don't always bother to use color text, but color figures in every other way in my life.

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The following is a fun book to read for word folks: Berlin, B. and Kay, P. (1969) Basic Color Terms: Their Universality and Evolution. Still available used or at your library.


Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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When I was a product manager for a patio furniture manufacturer, we used Pantone books when talking to textile manufacturers. That way, when we described what colours to make the textile that cover the chairs and umbrellas everybody was on the same page.

The same held true when we chose the paint colours for the furniture.

Once the set was finished though, we used "marketing" colours on the product packaging that went to retail; Desert Oasis, Sunset Gold, Ocean Waves.

You need to create a "ooo, I have to have that" when creating the retail package.

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Welcome, BranS. (hi, Connie! ) I'm going to let boronia know you're here: she visited The Hague not too long ago, and loved it.
You said in different disciplines the names of colors differ too. In what way(s), please? Names of tints, shades, or hues? Surely the basics remain the same: blue is blue, etc.?




Thanks for welcoming me , Jackie.
Yes there is a good variety in reds , yellows and blues.

reds":Cadmium reds, vermilion, red madder, crimson, english red.
yellows:cadmium yellows, indian yellow , gombadge, Napels yellow.
blues: ultramarine, ceruleum, cobalt blue, indigo, prussian blue.
greens: viridan, sapgreen,hookers green, green earth.
browns: raw and burnt siena, raw and burnt umber,yellow, gold and red ochre(all earth pigments).
lamp black and titan white and chines white.

The names of these colors mostly come from minaral, vegetable or animal ingredients,not from associations. No sky blue or spring green in a tube. No daffodil yellow.No lobster red.

But this color association game is amusing. What's in a color's name after all?

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Once I started watercolor painting I saw or at least noticed more colors than previously. I also started to describe them, at least to myself, by tube names. The sky became a thin wash of ultramarine shifting gradually to cerulean until, near the horizon, it was overlaid with a wash of lemon yellow (one of the only descriptive names) so that there was a touch of almost green as the sunset started.

Sadly it seldom looked like that on the paper. sigh

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it was overlaid with a wash of lemon yellow (one of the only descriptive names) so that there was a touch of almost green as the sunset started.





Ah! The famous green last beam at sunset!

Funny thing you mention the lemon yellow. Yes, it is the only color with a descriptive name and the only kind of yellow I always advise my students notto use on lemons. A good mixing color though and in lemons tolarable if combined with a fair amount of other components.
Standard remark : 'No,a lemon is not cadmiun yellow/lemon!'
Professional deformation: Before I give a color or shade a name (if at all) I always consider what color components they are made of.


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Cerulean isn't a descriptive name?

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