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Well, if it was the Board software that did it - and I suppose it might have been - I'll certainly apologise unconditionally to Aramis for calling him a thief. The original kiwi picture was one I picked up on the web anyway and is more or less in the public domain, which is why I just moved on and built my own avatar after my original post on the subject.
However, TEd's lucid post still doesn't explain how, for twelve hours or so after I put up my new avatar, Aramis was still showing the original kiwi picture. Then his user name (however it happened) was linked to my new one. If it had happened immediately I might have smelled a software rat. As it was, though, what else was I to think?
I've just looked through the avatar collection and I agree that the kiwi isn't there, but I didn't delete it. I can't. I don't have the privileges to do so. Perhaps Jackie did it by accident. And I know that simply linking to a new avatar doesn't delete the old one, because I linked to the Easter Island statue for a day or so once, and it's still there.
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I think it's more that zmjezhd's explanation of what happened just isn't correct.
The url to an avatar is associated with your profile and must be stored as a datum on the database against the individual profile.
It doesn't matter which of the stock avatars you link to, you can link and unlink to an avatar and not affect anyone else. However Aramis' profile picked up my new avatar, it wasn't because of anything I did such as changing MY link.
And as I said in the post above, unlinking from an avatar doesn't delete them and the original kiwi is most certainly gone.
I can accept that Aramis may have not intentionally grabbed my new avatar, but I need a better explanation of what happened than zmjezhd's...
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Cap, the experiment is underway. Please see the Apologies to Aramis thread. This thread is now in the over 99 post territory, so can we continue in the other thread?
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I think it's more that zmjezhd's explanation of what happened just isn't correct.
I'm sorry, but you're wrong. When a member chooses an image in the profile settings, s/he has two choices: (a) upload the file so that it is stored on the wordsmith.org host, or (b) provide a URL of the file so that it is stored on some other host. Examining where the avatar image is stored took me to a domain called bacchus-marsh.com ... This leads me to believe that anyone who chooses this picture will not only be stealing it, but bandwidth from whomever owns or rents the domain.
(In Firefox or Mozilla, one can test this out (until it is changed) by right-clicking on the picture next to Capital_Kiwi and choosing View Image in the contextual menu. Then note the URL that was loaded in the locator text field under the menu bar.)
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No, Capital Kiwi has changed where he had the avatar stored from the awad repository to his own. What you are seeing now is what reality is today. What you cannot see is the fact that Cap had the second avatar stored here, but he went in and moved it.
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No, Capital Kiwi has changed where he had the avatar stored from the awad repository to his own. What you are seeing now is what reality is today. What you cannot see is the fact that Cap had the second avatar stored here, but he went in and moved it. If you look at an avatar, stored on the board: say, the Padre's. It has a URL of http://wordsmith.org/board/images/avatars/1349.jpg ... It just so happens that his membership / user number is 1349. Anybody who chooses his Paul Scofield photo is just pointing at the same file, and if he changes the picture file, it is stored in the same place, instantly changing for anybody else who may have used it. [Addendum: Look at an avatar of AnnaStrophic, who has changed her avatar a couple of times. Her woodpecker icon is stored under her user id: 176.]
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Well, not quite.
I did upload my new avatar, but when I saw that it was also showing against Aramis' profile I asked Jackie to delete it because I couldn't (which is why I know that users can't delete avatars).
Jackie obliged, and I now link to it on my website (Bacchus Marsh). Certainly when both Aramis and I were linked to my new avatar when it was uploaded to the Board the url was the same, but then it would be, wouldn't it? But the two links (from my profile and from Aramis') are completely separate events, held against our individual profiles. They just happen to point to the same address. That's why zmjezhd's explanation isn't correct. No action on my part could affect Aramis' profile information, including his choice of avatar.
I still don't know, accepting that Aramis didn't deliberately choose my new avatar and link to it, why the link occurred.
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Apologies, zmjezhd, you are quite correct. It still doesn't explain why the board continued to show Aramis with the kiwi for half a day afterwards. Surely it doesn't cache images with every page ...
I would have overwritten the original gif with the new one when I uploaded it. (I didn't check the address details so Aramis lost his old avatar and "adopted" mine.)
I do owe Aramis an apology in the instance of the second avatar in that case.
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Having this cataclysm sorted out and the apologies are much appreciated. There certainly were unwarranted conclusions reached during all this. Perhaps a suggestion to alter the system to make the images unique to each member could be useful? From this end, only one selection was ever made, and without any sort of malicious intent.
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