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Re: A seasonal enquiry #158498
04/17/06 05:42 AM
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The Portuguese is suggestive but not conclusive. What is Maundy Thursday called in Portuguese? I'm guessing that the Portuguese name for Easter itself is probably some variant on Pascha. English may as usual be going its own way.

I missed the Maundy Thursday service this year. We had a tropical rainstorm from about 4 to 8 pm. so I knew there was no way I was going to make it thorugh Jakarta traffic on time, when I was ready to leave at 6:30.

It started raining again during the Good Friday morning service. But for Easter we had absolutely glorious sunshine after a week of rainstorms.


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Re: A seasonal enquiry #158499
04/17/06 02:39 PM
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We will most certainly observe Maundy Thursday today, with all of the appropriate attendant rites,...




So you had some foot-washing and the Queen gave out coins (Maundy money)?

Re: A seasonal enquiry #158500
04/17/06 02:44 PM
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> Portuguese name for Easter itself is probably some variant on Pascha

Wikipedia has a good entry on Easter/Pesach/Pascha


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Re: Maundy aka Sheer (?) Thursday #158501
04/18/06 11:54 AM
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Some background: there was in the middle ages a Portuguese pope (I suppose I could look him up) who decided the names of the weekdays were pagan (which they are). So he replaced Mon-Fri with segunda-feira, terça-feira, quarta-feira, quinta-feira, sexta-feira. The names are used today in Portugal and Brazil, and probably in the other colonies, too.That said, both the Thursday and the Friday of Holy Week are santa. And Easter, yes, is Páscoa.

Re: Maundy aka Sheer (?) Thursday #158502
04/19/06 01:23 AM
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The Indonesian word for Sunday (Minggu) comes from Portuguese. The Indonesian name for Monday (Senin) is local, the names for Tuesday to Saturday come from Arabic (Selasa, Rabu, Kamis, Jumat, Sabtu).

Minggu is also the word for week.

Maundy Thursday, BTW, is Kamis Putih (white Thursday).

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Minggu is also the word for week #158503
04/19/06 11:45 AM
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Does this lead to ambiguity? If you say I will travel the first week in May can that be misconstrued to mean the first Monday in May?


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Re: Minggu is also the word for week #158504
04/20/06 12:46 AM
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Any language has the potential for ambiguity. Usually, if necessary, some form of redundancy is employed to resolve the ambiguity.

Re: Minggu is also the word for week #158505
04/20/06 12:49 AM
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Any language has the potential for ambiguity. Usually, if necessary, some form of redundancy is employed to resolve the ambiguity.




Is it redundant if it resolves ambiguity?

Re: Minggu is also the word for week #158506
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E.g., PIN number.

Re: Minggu is also the word for week #158507
04/20/06 12:55 AM
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E.g., PIN number.




Oh, I understood the point. It just got me wondering whether such a device really deserves to be called redundant if it is actually serving a useful purpose.

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