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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Page 2 of 3 1 2 3 Re: graduated respect revisited #156278 05/27/06 05:42 AM Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 2,788 Seattle, Washington, USA Father Steve Carpal Tunnel Father Steve Carpal Tunnel Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 2,788 Seattle, Washington, USA No point in criticizing a usage based on one's willful misunderstanding of it. Faldo hates when people do that. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: deconstructing #156279 05/27/06 10:28 AM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 6,511 lower upstate New York AnnaStrophic Carpal Tunnel AnnaStrophic Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 6,511 lower upstate New York Quote: Or you can use common sense and interpret it as meaning that they spend two hours watching TV as opposed to 48 minutes being read to. No point in criticizing a usage based on one's willful misunderstanding of it. Well, *my common sense tells me this means kids spend less time, i.e., 48 minutes, watching TV when they are also (at a different) time being read to. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: deconstructing #156280 05/27/06 11:34 AM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 If that's the case then the sentence wasn't written very well. So now I'm with Myridon. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: well red herring #156281 05/27/06 10:32 PM Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,757 M maverick Carpal Tunnel maverick Carpal Tunnel M Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,757 Quote: Quote: Or you can use common sense and interpret it as meaning that they spend two hours watching TV as opposed to 48 minutes being read to. No point in criticizing a usage based on one's willful misunderstanding of it. Well, *my common sense tells me this means kids spend less time, i.e., 48 minutes, watching TV when they are also (at a different) time being read to. The sentence may not be well written but it doesn't stand this interpretation, surely? That would require the sentence to have included another word: They average about two hours of screen time, compared with 48 minutes when also being read to. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: well red herring #156282 05/28/06 12:36 AM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Quote: They average about two hours of screen time, compared with 48 minutes when also being read to. Wull … that's why it's not well written. The whole concept of being read to was just pulled out of the blue with no hint as to how it related to the subject at hand. And my apologies to Myridon for getting all haughty and stuff. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: well red herring #156283 05/28/06 11:25 PM Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,757 M maverick Carpal Tunnel maverick Carpal Tunnel M Joined: Sep 2000 Posts: 4,757 Quote: Quote: They average about two hours of screen time, compared with 48 minutes when also being read to. Wull … that's why it's not well written. The whole concept of being read to was just pulled out of the blue with no hint as to how it related to the subject at hand. And my apologies to Myridon for getting all haughty and stuff. I don't get that at all - I'm still with the common sense you abandoned a while ago! The sentence, albeit not charming, offers a straightforward time comparison: 2 hours in front of a screen, 48 mins being read to. It coulda been 73 minutes picking their nose but. The comparitor needs no further logical or linguistic introduction. Common sense supplies the assumed link: 2 sources of stimulus for the child. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: well red herring #156284 05/29/06 11:26 AM Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 6,511 lower upstate New York AnnaStrophic Carpal Tunnel AnnaStrophic Carpal Tunnel Joined: Mar 2000 Posts: 6,511 lower upstate New York I still don't get it, mav. Why would you read to a child while the TV is on? Is that what the research is saying? What does that prove? Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: well red herring #156285 05/29/06 11:49 AM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Buffalo Shrdlu Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont I'm with Anna on this one. kids who get read to watch 48 minutes; those who don't get read to watch 2 hours. formerly known as etaoin... Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter 48 TV minutes for the read-to kids #156286 05/29/06 02:55 PM Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 10,539 Likes: 1 Worcester, MA W wofahulicodoc Carpal Tunnel wofahulicodoc Carpal Tunnel W Joined: Aug 2001 Posts: 10,539 Likes: 1 Worcester, MA That's what I thought it meant, too, after putting it through the but-it-isn't-a-very-clear-sentence-is-it filter. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Re: well red herring #156287 05/30/06 03:58 PM Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 557 Dallas, TX M Myridon addict Myridon addict M Joined: Oct 2005 Posts: 557 Dallas, TX Quote: I'm with Anna on this one. kids who get read to watch 48 minutes; those who don't get read to watch 2 hours. Yes, sorry for being overly literal then leaving the room. Certainly this is the what the writer meant. The problem is that it says nothing as to how the two things are related. Does this imply that parents are reading to the children for the other 72 minutes or can the parents read for 5 minutes during breakfast and somehow reduce post-dinner TV watching? Without more complete data, this is as nonsensical a statement as the oft quoted correlation between safety pin usage and car accidents. Copy Link to Clipboard Share Post on Facebook Share Post on Twitter Page 2 of 3 1 2 3 Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------  Information and announcements  Q&A about words  Wordplay and fun  Words and languages in schools  Miscellany  Weekly Themes  Looking for (writers, speakers,... (Old) Weekly themes. 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