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#15474 01/12/01 07:24 PM
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the word "faith"
Consider this: "Faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things unseen." Hebrews 11:1
Very apposite to this discussion and 1900 years ahead of Freud.


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Jackie, very clearly put. Apples and oranges.

"Adversity is the whetstone of creativity"

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The AHD traces the -lusion part back to the Latin ludere, to play. I would say that the word delusion in common usage, implies a certain fight against evidence to the contrary, which, as you have stated, is not really what you are looking for. Illusion on the other hand, to me does not strongly imply a falseness of the belief so much as a lack of supporting evidence without implying any ignored counterevidence.

Probably the idea that you define your terms is more important than finding an existing word that says exactly what you mean. If you want to coin a word I would suggest that it be based on the root -lusion, perhaps cupilusion from the Latin cupio, cupere to desire. Define it in the Introduction or Chapter 1 and go from there.


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Faldage, thank you very much for your helpful note. I'll consider "cupilusion" if I do any major work on the subject any time soon.

By the way, can someone tell me how many messages I have to post to quit my "stranger" status? I feel like such an outsider! :(


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Welcome, omnium. You do realize, don't you, that due to your name, we will expect great things of you?
Also welcome to incunabula from t'other thread. (I have no wish to be accused again of inflating the number of my posts by issuing a welcome and nothing more.)

Joel., glad my def. agreed with yours. When you've made 25 posts, Sweetie, you'll become a cute little newbie. I do believe you get the honor of being the first newcomer to ask a question that resulted in such a flurry of responses.


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Jackie notes: When you've made 25 posts, Sweetie, you'll become a cute little newbie. I do believe you get the honor of being the first newcomer to ask a question that resulted in such a flurry of responses.

And may well become the first to break out of the realm of strangerdom in one thread.


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You're welcome, joelsephus. When you thank me in the Acknowledgements section of your book, thank me as Faldage.


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But I'd much prefer to leave that sort of work to the real experts who haunt the shadows of this electronic nether world.

to which CK chafed That's no way to talk about tsuwm. Or Minnesota, either, come to think of it.

thanks, kwee-wee; we *are still mostly nether and only a bit electronic hereabouts.

and a comment on faith in the theological sense; i.e., "the spiritual apprehension of divine truths, or of realities beyond the reach of sensible experience or logical proof" -- or, what the spirit believes without regard to truth or falsity.


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>and it could all just be a Freudian slip.

I. Kant take it!!!!



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Ted philosophised: I. Kant take it!!!!

CK responds, heatedly, after briefly considering whether Schrodinger's Cat is merely a logical outcome of Bishop Berkeley's school of thought: Burn on the Hobbes of Hell.

CONGRATULATIONS

TEd Remington, you are also the lucky winner of

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The prize is one tax audit by the IRS to be carried out at a time and office of their choosing.

Yet you should be grateful, because second prize is TWO simultaneous tax audits by the IRS at the same time of their choosing in different offices.

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TEd Remington, you're a winner!



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