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Gentle readers do peruse
The many different views
Offered from the pews
Of our esteemed congregation
Of yaks, and hawks and fish
Of goats' milk in a dish
Or perhaps, if you wish
Wedding songs from foreign nations
Or, arctic boats with outboard motors!
I ask as the promoter:
Which will deceive more voters?
(The mate-swapping has panache.)
To every taste they cater
Hats off to their creators!
I'm proud to be curator
Of this latest hog we wash!
From the Himalayas to the seas
Our liars aim to please
So pick one at your ease
The truth will come out later
Is it "jaundice"? Don't be yellow
Choose one bravely, proudly bellow!
It may be authored by your fellow
Don't blame me, I'm just the waiter.
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Will the real YARAK please stand up?
a) Jaundice (from Arabic yarqaan)
b) Dried buffalo dung
c) A shaman in training. From the Tungus yoraq, son-in-law
d) Anglicized from the Bedouin "uareg"; desert terrain where the wind moves shallow dunes across rock
e) A cross between a Camel and a Yak, these herbivores are known for their ability to make sounds that can be understood by most birds
f) A simple yet strong traditional tent structure, made from horse skin, used as housing by the nomadic peoples of the Mongolian steppes
g) The hood of a waterproof insulated jacket
h) A tent made of tanned goat skins and dried dung used as shelter by many nomadic North African tribes
i) From Bhutani yarkh'u, a broad track or path, hewed into the rock, that skirts an almost vertical mountainside
j) The song sung by the groom at a traditional Turkish wedding. The first verse extols the beauty of the bride. The second and third verses are fierce demands for lifelong fidelity, and describe possible penalties of banishment or death for transgression.
k) Aleut kayak with a flat stern for fitting an outboard motor
l) Inuit term for the custom of loaning one's mate to a guest
m) A falconry term describing a hawk in prime condition for hunting
n) A rare Armenian kirtle. See Kimono: a rare Asian yarak.
o) A fish found in the Persian Gulf the flesh of which is popularly believed to have curative powers
p) Cultured goats' milk, consumed in remoter regions of the Himalayas
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Alex, you owe me a new keyboard!!  As soon as I stop laughing, I will try to separate the real from the armilsŪ (but are they?...) Edit: {sufficiently recovered} Despite Logwood's thorough analysis, I vote for C
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Alex:
If you keep this up, we are gonna have to petition for a whole new forum for Alex's hogwash. And then, sometime in the not too distant future: your own website, to be followed soon thereafter by offers of book contracts with huge 3 figure advances, and dare we say it, movie rights!
But right now I have to take a P.
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Lovely presentation Alex!
a) Jaundice (from Arabic yarqaan)
My first insticts told me that's it. Because "yarak" does sounds it's from a language that is completely unrelated to English. And unlike all other definition this one's short & simple with a very reasonable etymology... BUT, as I thought about it more and ran through the other definitions I was beginning to doubt it. Besides, Alex wouldn't make it that bland right?
b) Dried buffalo dung
Eww! why would anyone come up with a name for that??
c) A shaman in training. From the Tungus yoraq, son-in-law
I don't know... "yarak" and "shaman" sounds like two different languages to me.
d) Anglicized from the Bedouin "uareg"; desert terrain where the wind moves shallow dunes across rock
From Bedouin? Bedouin is not an actual language is it? Truth be told, I also thought "desert" when I pondered to submit a definition, which is exactly why I'm voting no.
e) A cross between a Camel and a Yak, these herbivores are known for thier ability to make sounds that can be understood by most birds
Wherever I see "known for" I just KNOW someone made that up! I say no to that.
f) A simple yet strong traditional tent structure, made from horse skin, used as housing by the nomadic peoples of the Mongolian steppes
What? horse skin? for the sake of the horrible mental image, I'm voting no.
g) The hood of a waterproof insulated jacket
I fail to see why a waterproof jacket would need a different word to its hood. And if it had one, it probably wouldn't be "yarak"!
h) A tent made of tanned goat skins and dried dung used as shelter by many nomadic North African tribes
Let's see, in earlier definitions dried dung has been mentioned, tent has been mentioned and would be mentioned, and goats would be mentioned once again... I guess logic tells me that's the one. This is my pick.
i) From Bhutani yarkh'u, a broad track or path, hewed into the rock, that skirts an almost vertical mountainside
Nice try, Father Steve! whenever a definition starts with the etymology, I'm getting doubtful. But I doubt anyway such a small word would have that definition.
The song sung by the groom at a traditional Turkish wedding. The first verse extols the beauty of the bride. The second and third verses are fierce demands for lifelong fidelity, and describe possible penalties of banishment or death for transgression.
That's actually a good one, and I will read more about it if it's true, but I doubt it is.
k) Aleut kayak with a flat stern for fitting an outboard motor
I seriously doubt Alex would dish out a modern word. Kayak=Yarak... nah, this is just too obvious. No to that.
l) Inuit term for the custom of loaning one's mate to a guest
some people really dig too far in the cold for definitions. No no.
m) A falconry term describing a hawk in prime condition for hunting
That just doesn't sound like what I could imagine "yarak" to represent.
n) A rare Armenian kirtle. See Kimono: a rare Asian yarak.
"yarak" appears in the Kimono's definition? as if it is a known word? ... yea right!
o) A fish found in the Persian Gulf the flesh of which is popularly believed to have curative powers
"Popularly believed to have curative powers? that definition has "phony" written all over it.
p) Cultured goats' milk, consumed in remoter regions of the Himalayas
Right, the goats again. I think the person who submitted it probably knew the original definition and inflected it a bit to make a false one.
To reiterate, I pick H.
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Great poem, O B(o)ard Alex! [goggly eyes-e]
Good word, and brill definitions, everyone... have we ever had such an exotic collection of etymologies before?
I pick J .
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Well done, Alex. By all means, Christmas plums for you.
I choose I (eye).
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Perhaps I should be more wary of Military Intelligence, but I'll take G too. I mean, also.
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I don't have an effin' clue, so I might as well take F
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Alex, your AAAB, CCCB
rhyme-schemed verse is marvelous.
Ive narrowed it down to 15.
My unusually verbose dart board (perhaps a friend of e), says: If its consensual, go with L .
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I pick P only because I like the word "remoter".
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The correct answer is "D". desert terrain where the wind moves shallow dunes across rock I should know because I am a amateur geologist. Ok, so maybe I don't know, but if it is not the defining term for the shallow but wide sand piles over flat rocks that are found thoughout the World, then what is the term used to describe that wind blown effect? I cheated and checked and the configuration is known as a "yarak". 
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O, I guess I'll go fishing.
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Your normal fine exotic collection, gang! Fairly perplexed, all I can try is tsuwms ArmilŪ test.
a) Jaundice (from Arabic yarqaan)
c) A shaman in training. From the Tungus yoraq, son-in-law
d) Anglicized from the Bedouin "uareg"; desert terrain where the wind moves shallow dunes across rock
From Arabic, into English. Hmmmmm
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f) A simple yet strong traditional tent structure, made from horse skin, used as housing by the nomadic peoples of the Mongolian steppes
g) The hood of a waterproof insulated jacket
h) A tent made of tanned goat skins and dried dung used as shelter by many nomadic North African tribes
Three leathery coverings. Hmmmm
e) A cross between a Camel and a Yak, these herbivores are known for their ability to make sounds that can be understood by most birds
o) A fish found in the Persian Gulf the flesh of which is popularly believed to have curative powers
b) Dried buffalo dung
Animals or by-products. Hmmmmm
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i) From Bhutani yarkh'u, a broad track or path, hewed into the rock, that skirts an almost vertical mountainside
k) Aleut kayak with a flat stern for fitting an outboard motor
Sound-alikes from other cultures. Hmmmm
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j) The song sung by the groom at a traditional Turkish wedding. The first verse extols the beauty of the bride. The second and third verses are fierce demands for lifelong fidelity, and describe possible penalties of banishment or death for transgression.
l) Inuit term for the custom of loaning one's mate to a guest
Indigenous carnal customs. Hmmmmmm
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n) A rare Armenian kirtle. See Kimono: a rare Asian yarak.
p) Cultured goats' milk, consumed in remoter regions of the Himalayas
Exotic terms from Asian lands. Hmmmmm
All that leaves is:
m) A falconry term describing a hawk in prime condition for hunting
Sheeeeeesh, that sounds just as unlikely in its own right! What part of speech could that be? Otoh, I was reading a fine short story by Gilad Evron in Granta recently that reminds me hunting hawks have a significant history in Palestine, so mebbe it *could be an Arabic term after all. Well, this has to be my choice, I guess.
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a) Jaundice (from Arabic yarqaan)
c) A shaman in training. From the Tungus yoraq, son-in-law
d) Anglicized from the Bedouin "uareg"; desert terrain where the wind moves shallow dunes across rock
From Arabic, into English. Hmmmmm
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This would be all well and good, but Tungus is (maybe) an Altaic language spoken in Siberia and totally unrelated to any Semitic language. It is, in fact, the language from which we got shaman (not the original language that spawned the word in the first place, but who's counting?) according to the AHD.
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hehheh, guess I know who laid *that egg, then, Fong And as more than wan correspondent has pointed out, my divisions could easily be occamed on other boundaries but. [shrug]
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guess I know who laid *that egg, then, Fong
Or either that or I looked it up after having voted my ownself, one.
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> LIU
ahhhh. ok, yah gots a point. get me to a dic, sure, narry a moment's tarry...
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Mav sez: "my divisions could easily be occamed on other boundaries ..."
"Occamed." Wonderful. Now part of my vocabulary. No credit to be given; pure theft.
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It's a privilege to have my pockets picked by a judge, father! Consider it a little christmas gift as a token of my esteem. 
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I'm not changing my answer, but I do think maverick makes a lot of sense, and wouldn't be too surprised if he's correct... you're a true maverick, maverick. Btw, you knew "maverick" in Hebrew means "brilliant" (when pronouced mav-rick)?  hmm. Can't wait to get the results on this one.
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No Logwood, Maverick may be medium brilliant but he isn't Jewish. Maverick NOUN: 1. An unbranded range animal, especially a calf that has become separated from its mother, traditionally considered the property of the first person who brands it. But Awad's Maverick, obviously, is not a motherless calf. He is but a man who refuses to admit that he has been branded. 
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what an odd lot of imaginative (but oddly similar) choices; however, I have a new criterium to apply here, which I am calling opaque's dull blade: to wit, choose the definition that stands apart as the most tedious, dull and boring and that must be the actual meaning. using this process, I arrive at m as the result. of course, by the same logic, I would never pick m as the *best answer.
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> pronouced mav-rick heh, thanks for that, of which I no inkling til then! Milo's right of course, I am named after a cunning thief (oh, sorry, archetypal American entrepeneur!) of the prairie who deemed any unmarked calves as his as soon as he applied the maverick brand. In my work I am also much involved with brands of a different kind. Where Milo may err slightly is that since my mother's name is Miriam and thinks that some of her family *may have included some lost members of the wandering tribe, there may indeed be a portion of my mongrel blood so derived. All speculation that I do not allow to inform my daily life, but there anyway. The maverick brand suits my spelling style anyway...
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I'll cast my vote for A although I think M might be it.
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Okay folks, all but one of our submitters have now voted. Once that person has voted I will go ahead and post results (for those of you that have resisted googling the word already on your own).
I enjoy hosting Hogwash but if anyone else would like to host it then please jump on in. If a new game doesn't start in a day or so then I'll post another word myself.
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Who is the delinquent submitter, Alex? Is it Iselpeter? Bingly? Who do they think they are... Jackie? A dime holding up a dollar. Such arrogance should be expunged from a legitmate game of Hogwash(c). Count to ten then throw the bum out. We, the eighteen responsible members who have duly voted, need closure. We have further fish to fry and need to get back to our families and fishing. Delete the reticent oaf and give us our scores. Now! 
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I have learned the error of my ways and do embrace patience in all things hog-washy. Therefore I must protect the identity of our fellow AWADer who has not yet voted. I will reveal that his initials are "Bingley," but beyond that my lips are sealed.
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I understand that Bingley has left the comforts of Jakarta to make his annual pilgramage to the Old Country, where, if I remember rightly, he does not access the internet. Don't know how long he's away, Alex. Maybe give him another day or two, so we can have our se'nnight, yes?
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Maybe not.
But he's been visiting his Old Country for more than ten days, so where is this Old Country...on Mars?
Patience, Dear Hogmaster, is not a virtue when hungry wolves are at your heels. We people have places to go and ditches to dig and we have already waited a se'nnight plus two.
Look, I don't want to seem unkindly, but waiting on Bingley to return is like watching a four hour Fellini film without any captions.
Even good ole Bingley himself (if he were here) would be embarrassed at a Hogmaster's failure to call "time".
So please, stop the madness. Invoke the "endgame clause" of Consuello Hogwash rules that requires the public disclosure of Bingley definition and then call "time".
It is the right thing to do.
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>> like watching a four hour Fellini film without any captions<<
in English!!!
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Patience, Dear Hogmaster, is not a virtue when hungry wolves are at your heels.
So, Dear Hogmaster. Damned if you do and damned if you don't.
And, Milo, where can I get a DVD of that Fellini film?
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"And, Milo, where can I get a DVD of that Fellini film?" The Fellini Film of the Month Club at $8 1/2 per DVD, Faldage. Aren't you a member? 
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Don't wait for Bingley this time, Alex; he'll be away a couple more weeks. He may occasionally get on the internet, but don't count on it by a certain time.
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Results are forthcoming in a new thread.
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Hello to the AWAD crew!
I have been gone for a couple of years and I am amazed to find you all still posting away. Bravo!
I am trying to find a Christmas story I posted here a few years ago (2003 or 02?) and I couldn't find it using the search. Does anyone know how I might navigate back to it (maybe it was in miscellany?) or to whom I might inquire to try to retrieve it (Jackie?)
Anyway, Merry, merry to all of you. It is great to see the familiar old names.
Be well,
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Since the software was updated, I too have been unable to retrieve old threads using the search. The search engine will discover the threads, and display links, but when I click on them I get an error message.
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Thanks Alex.
I'm trying to recover a story I wrote that in my recent work and home moves, I seem to have no copy of. It really captured a very sweet moment in my life.
Who is the webmaster? Would that help?
Anyway thanks, and are you "invisible?"
By the way, where is wwh?
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Dearest Inselpeter,
Thank you so much! What a wonder. I have no idea how you did it but I am very greatful. Just a few weeks ago I thought I had lost this little piece of writing forever. Then I awloke in the middle of the night and remembered my AWAD posting, and thought that just maybe I could still find it here.
Only with the help of a pooh-bah, I see.
Fondly,
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Glad to help.
Here's the trick: click on the user name and then on "show all user's posts," et voila.
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Dr. Bill stopped posting some time ago; his eyesight is much worse, now. I thought he had had to stop sending/receiving PM's, too, but... ta da-ah--I got a PM from him yesterday! Turns out his computer access was a bit delayed due to a move. He would be delighted to receive any and all PM's. However, I feel I ought to say that he told me some time ago that his eyes tire quickly; I've kept mine to him pretty short. And yes, welcome back, mm! How've you been? 
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That's great news about Dr. Bill
Thanks for telling us Jackie.
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