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irony intended.


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irony intended.




This reminds me of something. Ah yes :

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sorry. I got no life
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Clearly.

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If you're not happy here, HL, please find yourself another board, up to your, ahem, standards. Ad hominem is truly a weapon of the weak.

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Hey, guys.

Emough, please. This started out as a pretty interesting thread and it's just about terminally ill from sniping. I don't even like James Joyce, and I found the serious side of this thread very interesting.

It was not enough to induce me to ever crack the covers of a James Joyce work again, certainly, but fascinating from a word sense.

We CAN all get along without rudeness and condescension.


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We CAN all get along without rudeness and condescension.

This laudable notion seems increasingly inapparent.

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I had to look this one up, and thought some of you may be interested in the usage note:
ad hom·i·nem (hŏm'ə-nĕm', -nəm)
adj.
Appealing to personal considerations rather than to logic or reason: Debaters should avoid ad hominem arguments that question their opponents' motives.

[Latin : ad, to + hominem, accusative of homō, man.]

ad hom'i·nem' adv.
USAGE NOTE As the principal meaning of the preposition ad suggests, the homo of ad hominem was originally the person to whom an argument was addressed, not its subject. The phrase denoted an argument designed to appeal to the listener's emotions rather than to reason, as in the sentence The Republicans' evocation of pity for the small farmer struggling to maintain his property is a purely ad hominem argument for reducing inheritance taxes. This usage appears to be waning; only 37 percent of the Usage Panel finds this sentence acceptable. The phrase now chiefly describes an argument based on the failings of an adversary rather than on the merits of the case: Ad hominem attacks on one's opponent are a tried-and-true strategy for people who have a case that is weak. Ninety percent of the Panel finds this sentence acceptable. The expression now also has a looser use in referring to any personal attack, whether or not it is part of an argument, as in It isn't in the best interests of the nation for the press to attack him in this personal, ad hominem way. This use is acceptable to 65 percent of the Panel.•Ad hominem has also recently acquired a use as a noun denoting personal attacks, as in “Notwithstanding all the ad hominem, Gingrich insists that he and Panetta can work together” (Washington Post). This usage may raise some eyebrows, though it appears to be gaining ground in journalistic style.•A modern coinage patterned on ad hominem is ad feminam, as in “Its treatment of Nabokov and its ad feminam attack on his wife Vera often border on character assassination” (Simon Karlinsky). Though some would argue that this neologism is unnecessary because the Latin word homo refers to humans generically, rather than to the male sex, in some contexts ad feminam has a more specific meaning than ad hominem, being used to describe attacks on women as women or because they are women, as in “Their recourse … to ad feminam attacks evidences the chilly climate for women's leadership on campus” (Donna M. Riley).

From Gurunet. [/showing my ignorance yet again]

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Google returns 231 for arruginated, none of them definitions, all of them on e-texts of Ulysses.





well, it's not just a hapax in Ulysses anymore (oh accursed internet!):

Lovely word, discomfiture. Creates the very opposite of what it describes: a feeling of ease. Its mere appearance elevates the tone -- and god knows the tone here and there could stand some elevating.

Beautiful in itself, and also for what it so easily summons, such as "deconfiture" which, deprived of its privative, gives us "confiture," as in "confiture de fraises de bois" which might then lead us quickly from the banks of the Seine, by a commodius vicus, to the riverrun of the Liffey, where in a back room of a pub two doors down from the hazard that is just across from 7 Eccles Street, and where recently the postman found an arruginated key that looked as if it had been lying on the grass without complaint for 89 years, a jam session is in progress, and there are flourishes and licks of Jelly Roll Morton, and...

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I found that one, too, t, and it made very little sense as a comment to the blog it was sent?


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I'm not sure what the source of this disbelief is;




The disbelief is rooted in the notion that you would spend a lot of time trying to find meaning in Joyce, or at least trying to find meaning in it through intellectual means. That there would be a lot of typos in Ulysses I find not at all hard to believe. To borrow a phrase from the late, great Walt Kelly, Joyce ran with the language and in doing so left much that would be hard to corroborate from standard sources. My advice for reading Joyce is just to go with the flow. Surrender to the music. Don't try to analyze it intellectually.

That said, I might suggest that arruginate is not a typo but a dialectical represention of originate. Try it with the context.

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Arruginate is to add arugula (English), roquette (French), rucola or rughetta (Italian) to the other leafy vegetables in the salad.

Help! I'm slowly become TEd!

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