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#147608 09/08/05 12:52 PM
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Siderated adj to be struck with a constellation; star-blasted; planet-struck; blasted.

Now there, in my humble opinion, is a Word of the Day.

But is it a word? It caught my eye when I was looking up "sidereal clock" in my ill-famed Wordsworth Dictionary Of Difficult Words, but I have never seen it employed : It hardly has much utility in ordinary experience.

All the same, I cannot resist submitting it to the board in the hope that someone will be able to offer a more detailed definition.




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That's a good one, ullrich. It looks like a job for tsuper-tsuwm!


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siderate, v.

Obs.

[f. ppl. stem of L. siderari to be planet-struck, f. sider-, sidus constellation, star.]

trans. To strike with malign (sidereal) influence, to blast. Chiefly in passive: To be blasted, struck with lightning; also fig., to be thunder-struck.

1623 COCKERAM I, Siderate, to blast. 1646 SIR T. BROWNE Pseud. Ep. 335 Parts cauterized, gangrenated, siderated and mortified, become black. 1654 VILVAIN Epit. Ess. V. xxxiii. 102 The 2 Persons that were suddenly siderated or slain and scorched in bed together with Lightning. 1679 V. ALSOP Melius Inq. II. v. 307 This is Demonstration that puts the Controversie beyond all exception, and the poor Non-conformists are siderated with the violence of it!


OED SECOND EDITION 1989



edit: obsolete : to blast or strike down (as with lightning) [W3]

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Tsanks, tsuwm. So the "blast" bit would be the connection to the steel industry?


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I think the Cockeram def'n (1623) would predate steel, non?


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>>predates steel<<

Dear me, no!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steel Scroll down the page a bit. There was an article on early hillside blast furnaces in China in the NY Times several years ago. Seville sword makers also used steel in the weapons that helped Cortez defeat the Aztecs.


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:}

I maybe should have said "would predate the steel industry".
-joe (Bessemer) bfstplk


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Ex-cuuuuse me! I'm asking about the make-up of the words siderurgy and siderated as per ullrich's original post. I'm astsuming the root is the tsame. [/geez, some people..®?!®]

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>I'm asking about the make-up of the words siderurgy and siderated..

well excuse me thrice - yours just then is the first mention of siderurgy I think, and you did reply to me, using my nym did you not?!

(you don't have to try *that hard, ASp :)


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I axed about the steel industry earlier. And while we're at it, how does the above word tie in? [/no mo props for tsuwm]


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