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#146905 08/27/05 09:51 PM
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if you think shortin' bread is about food, you live a sheltered life!

I must. With all of those references to the baby being hungry and getting out the skillet, how easy it was for me to think that this was a food song. If the real, hidden, secret meaning is just too adult for this board, do please send it to me by PM.


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"Shortnin bread" must be like all those old English drinking songs ... apparently innocuous subjects which are purportedly ribald and sung to the accompaniment of uproarious laughter.

As near as I can tell, you may use any noun and any verb, and as long as you sing them whilst wiggling your eyebrows up and down, you have indeed hit the mark.


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shortnin bread is dessert just as "Jelly roll" is.. a treat for some, but not perhaps what children think..




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Lands sakes, we learn something every day...

http://www.harbour.sfu.ca/~hayward/van/glossary/jellyroll.html


#146909 08/28/05 12:50 AM
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shortnin bread is dessert just as "Jelly roll" is.. a treat for some, but not perhaps what children think..



HONI SOIT! As wofa's link shows, the word in question has several meanings. One choses them according to one's own inclinations. If I want shortning bread to mean nothing more than food, then that's what it means to me. The esteemed minister made a good point about the ease with any term can be made into a euphemism, for want of a better description.


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well we spend a lot of time learning cockney rhyming slang.. American english, like english english, has several varients. and knowing a few words in a specific dialect can help you understand a good deal.

a good deal of black slang, (a slang as detailed and interesting as cockney)is used in the blues--especially old blues. if you like the blues, you hear it, and if you are interested in language, you end up learning it.

Yes, the song can be seen as innocent,(Mama little baby's like shortnin, shortnin, mama's little baby likes shortnin bread) or it can be seen in a different light.
(all of which is very appropriate for a word board!)

and besides, i realized after i posted, the topic is still about things getting lifed up.. sort of!
(running and ducking for cover icon --jackie is gonna whup my hide!)

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whup my hide Not if that term has any secret sexual meaning, I'm not!


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In a different direction, you have Chef (Isaac Hayes) of South Park singing about his Chocolate Salty Balls (P.S. I Love You). In this case what he's singing about is a food item which is homonymous with a body part rather than a euphemism.

http://tinyurl.com/cv8pe




Ceci n'est pas un seing.
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homonymous
How is this pronounced, please? I can think of two ways, and they both sound weird.


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In medicine that's hoe-MON-i-muss (the last u is more properly a schwa). It's used to describe a defect in the field of vision that is on the same side in both eyes, as in "right homonymous hemi-anopsia," meaning anything to the right of the midline (that is, the right half of the visual field) will not be perceived, by either eye. It might have been the central/nasal halves, or maybe the outside/lateral halves, instead. Such differences help locate pathology in the brain, i.e. tumors or localized strokes.

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