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Hopefully, someone can help me.
Bulimia (overeating) is derived from "bous" = cow, and "limos" = hunger.
Question: is there at least one other word that has some part of "limos" in
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I've asked others, but no one can help; so I'm turning to you.
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Dictionary.com Limosis

n. [NL., fr. Gr. limo`s hunger.] (Med.) A ravenous appetite caused by disease; excessive and morbid hunger.






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welcome, I.

my search at OneLook (using limos* and limo*) turns up mostly references to a stretch limo...

sorry I'm not much help.



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Great. Now I'm really confused. What would you think is the difference between BULIMIA and LIMOSIS?

Is there a doctor in the house?

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To answer your second question, ilanger, Bulimia describes an unfortunately all-too-common disease characterized by eating and purging. The other word has no currency that I'm aware of. We do have some doctors in the house, as well as some keen etymologists. Hang on to your hat; they'll be around sooner or later.


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What would you think is the difference between BULIMIA and LIMOSIS?

As ASp has said, bulimia is characterized by "eating and purging", presumably to maintain a lean figure [which is never lean enough, of course].

Limosis is simply an morbid desire to eat, presumably without the morbid desire to lose the weight.

If I am right about this, those suffering from Limosis would be overweight, those from Bulimia would be gaunt.


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Plugging *limia into onelook.com gives three other words, coitolimia, tragolimia, and xenolimia. All three are in the Glossary of Unusual Sexual Practices.


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> tragolimia

They call that "beer" in Wales.


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"beer"

How'd the old C&W song go? "You're lookin' better every beer."


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Question: is there at least one other word that has some part of "limos" in it?

The following is just some of the information that I have, gained mainly from my greek mythology love as well as from my encyclopidea Britanica.

bulimia (bu·lim·ia) (bu-lim˘e-[schwa]) [L.; Gr. bous ox + limos hunger] episodic binge eating usually followed by behavior designed to negate the excessive caloric intake, most commonly purging behaviors such as self-induced vomiting or laxative abuse but sometimes other methods such as excessive exercise or fasting. While it is usually associated with b. nervosa, it may also occur in other disorders, such as anorexia nervosa.

limosis (li·mo·sis) (li-mo˘sis) [Gr. limos hunger] abnormal hunger.


According to Greek Mythology:


Greek: LimoV
Transliteration: Limos
Translation: Hunger, Famine Latin
Spelling: Limus
Roman Name: Fames

LIMOS was the personification of hunger, famine and starvation. His/her opposite number was Demeter.

Parents
ERIS (no father) (Theogony 226)
"Abhorred Eris bare ... Limos (Starvation), and the Algea (Pains), full of weeping." –Theogony 226

"Work on, so that Limos (Famine) will avoid you and august and garlanded Demeter will be you friend, and fill your barn with substance of living; Limos (Famine) is the unworking man's most constant companion." -Works and Days 299-303

"A punishment she [Demeter] planned most piteous, were pity not made forfeit by his deed - Fames (Hunger) [Limos] to rack and rend him; and because Demeter and Fames (Hunger) - so the Fates decree - may never meet, she charged a mountain sprite, a rustic Oread, to take her message.
'There is a place', she said, 'a freezing barren place, .. a land of gloom, sad barren soil with never crop nor tree; this is the numb wan home of Cold and Ague and starving Fames (Hunger); go bid Fames sink deep in the belly of that impious wretch, and let no plenty ever vanquish her, nor strength of mine [i.e. food] prevail against her dearth.' ..

[The Oread] set out in search of Fames (Hunger) and found her in a stubborn stony field, grubbing with nails and teeth the scanty weeds. Her hair was coarse, her face sallow, her eyes sunken; her lips crusted and white; her throat scaly with scurf. Her parchment skin revealed the bowels within; beneath her hollow loins jutted her withered hips; her sagging breasts seemed hardly fastened to her ribs; her stomach only a void; her joints wasted and huge, her knees like balls, her ankles grossly swollen.

Eyeing her from a distance, fearing to go closer, the Nympha gave her the goddess' orders and hardly waiting, though some way away, though just arrived, she felt, or seemed to feel, Hunger ..

Fames did Demeter's bidding, though their aims are ever opposite, and, wafted down the wind, reached the king's palace and at once entered the scoundrel's room and, as he slept, wrapped him in her arms and breathed upon him, filling with herself his mouth and throat and lungs, and channelled through his hollow veins her craving emptiness; then, duty done, quitting the fertile earth, returned to her bleak home, her caves of dearth ..

When he [the king] woke, and peace had fled, a furious appetite reigned in his ravenous throat and burning belly.

At once whatever sea or land or air can furnish he demands, and when the board groans he complains he's starving; while he feasts calls for more courses; more he crams his guts, the more he craves." -Metamorphoses 8.791

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Hesiod, Theogony - Greek Epic C8th-7th BC
Hesiod, Works and Days - Greek Epic C8th-7th BC
Ovid, Metamorphoses - Latin Epic C1st BC - C1st AD


Other words would consist of limos:
dearth, famine, hunger, famines

Hope this helps even a little.

Blessings to you,

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I'd been wondering what the "cow" was doing in there and then I remembered how cows do their eating.


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Is there a connection between 'bulimia' and 'Tantalus' from mythology?



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Welcome aBoard, nome; and whoa, that's pretty scary! I don't about a linguistic connection, but the ideas...!

Aside: is Tantalus where we get tantalize from?


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from Wikipedia:

Tantalus is the origin of the English word "tantalize". The idea being that when a person tantalizes someone else, that person is making them like Tantalus: there is something desirable that is always just out of that person's reach.
A Tantalus, by an obvious analogy, is also the term for a type of drinks decanter stand in which the bottle stoppers are firmly clamped down by a locked metal bar, as a means of preventing servants from stealing the master's liquor.




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The mythology that I am aware of concerning Tantalus is as follows:

Tantalus
Main Entry: Tan·ta·lus
Pronunciation: 'tan-t&l-&s (tan-tuh-luhs)
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin, from Greek Tantalos

1: a legendary king of Lydia condemned to stand up to the chin in a pool of water in Hades and beneath fruit-laden boughs only to have the water or fruit recede at each attempt to drink or eat
2. not capitalized: a locked cellarette with contents visible but not obtainable without a key

Tantalus, also Tántalos, in Greek mythology was a son of Zeus and the nymph Plouto (not to be confused with the Roman name for Hades).

Thus he was a king in the primordial world. He was associated with Phrygia or Mount Sipylus in Lydia, both in Asia Minor. He became one of the inhabitants of Tartarus, the deepest portion of the Underworld, reserved for the punishment of evildoers.

His children were Pelops, Niobe, and Broteas, all three fathered on his wife Dione.
Story of Tantalus

Tantalus is known for having been welcomed to Zeus' table in Olympus. There he stole nectar and ambrosia, brought them back to his people, and revealed the secrets of the gods. He also offered up his son, Pelops as a sacrifice to the gods, an archetypal story of shamanic initiation in which he cut Pelops up, boiled him, and served him up as food for the gods.

The gods were said to be aware of his plan for their feast, so they didn't touch the offering; only Demeter, disturbed by the rape of her daughter Persephone, "did not realize what it was" and ate of the boy's shoulder. Fate, ordered by Zeus, brought the boy to life again (she collected the parts of the body and boiled them in a sacred cauldron) rebuilding his shoulder with one wrought of dolphin ivory, made by Hephaestos and presented by Demeter.

Pelops, thus reconstituted, was brought back to life having gained new qualities. To reinforce the initiatory theme, the revived Pelops is kidnapped by Poseidon and taken to Olympus to be the god's lover.

The Greeks of classical times claimed to be horrified by Tantalus' doings, and accused Tantalus of trying to trick the Olympian gods back into their older identities by offering them a sacrifice-banquet of human flesh.

The kernel of myth embodied in this tale reinforces Olympian suppression of human sacrifice, which had apparently been offered in earlier times, especially to Demeter in her earlier embodiment as the Great Goddess, but which was now taboo. Alternatively, Tantalus is cast as a Promethean figure who divulges divine secrets to mortals and presides over sacred initiations consisting of mystic death and transfiguration.

Tantalus' punishment, now proverbial for temptation without satisfaction, was to stand in a pool of water beneath a fruit tree with low branches. Whenever he reached for the fruit, the branches raised his intended meal from his grasp. Whenever he bent down to get a drink, the water receded before he could get any.

In a separate story, he was also blamed for having stolen the dog of Hephaestus (god of metals) (alternatively, he convinced his friend, Pandareus to do so).

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Tantalus is the origin of the English word "tantalize". The idea being that when a person tantalizes someone else, that person is making them like Tantalus: there is something desirable that is always just out of that person's reach.

A Tantalus, by an obvious analogy, is also the term for a type of drinks decanter stand in which the bottle stoppers are firmly clamped down by a locked metal bar, as a means of preventing servants from stealing the master's liquor.


As for a connection between Tantalus and Bulimia, I personally believe the only connections are due to two things.

1.) They are both eating disorders
a.) Tantalus = Anorexia; lack of eating
b.) Bulimia; gorging and purging
2.) Both were practiced by the Greek people and both were gods.

Other then that, I am not aware of an actual connection between the two.

Blessings to you,

Rev. Alimae


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