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#137491 01/20/05 07:55 AM
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Where's jheem when you need him? Sure jheem had delicate sensibilities and wore his feelings on his sleeve but by golly if you needed an answer to a word stump, ole jheem was johnny-on-the-spot... where's jheem?

Oh well, I guesss I'll just post this word-stumper here anyway on the odd chance that maybe one of you old humpers will have bumped into this word during your long trials and travels and tribulations and by chance you will still remember the word today...[sigh]...where's jheem!

The word is domnicks.

And where's jheem...it's times like this that I wish I hadn't hurt his feelings and ran him off.


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I wish I hadn't ... ran him off.

Dear themilum: You couldn't run anyone off. Your improprieties are merely endearing.

You add a dash of color to the proceedings. Well, perhaps more than a dash. A dollop.

In any case, whatever conditions may have existed at the time jheem took his hiatus, those conditions are now, thankfully, diriment.

I wish I could help you with "domnick", but I can't. It sounds like the name of a bar. I'm not sure this is a worthy test of jheem's talents. I'm not even sure it's a worthy test of mine. :)




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I checked domnick on onelook.com and came up with only a company name and various surnames.

What was the context, Milo?


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ran him off

He left because he couldn't take my advice about ignoring.


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What was the context, Milo?

I knew it! Ole jheem wouldn't have asked about context, Wordwind, but [sigh] I guess I'll just have to live in the World that I live in... [sigh] ... so here is the context:

I know that a lot of people here don't much like books but I was reading a book entitled "An Alabama Songbook" and ran across the word in the song "Rosen the Beau" in the chapter entitled "Risque Characters" with these lyrics...
Verse
I've traveled this country all over, And to another I'll go.
I know there's good quarters awaiting to welcome old Rosen the Beau.

Chorus
To welcome old Rosen the Beau, to welcome old Rosen the
Beau.
Theare's good quarters awaiting, to welcome old Rosen the Beau.

2 And when I'm laid on the counter
The ladies would all like to know,
Just raise up the lid of the coffin
And look at old Rosen the Beau.

Chorus

3 And get you a dozen good fellows,
And stand them all up in a row,
And drink out of a big bellied bottle
The health of old Rosen the Beau.

Chorus

4 Just get you a couple of donnicks;
Place one at my head and my toe.
And do not forget to scratch on it
The name of old Rosen the Beau.


Sung by Mr. Joe M. Jacks Jr. Sheffield, Alabama, 10 June 1947

Commentary...

"This was an extremely popular song in the mid-nineteenth century, largely because of its tune which was borrowed for at least four political campaign songs between 1822 and 1872. It appeared in dozens of songsters and was a pillar of the sheet music industry. Rosen, or Rosin, is often identified as a "Bow", but most versions present him more clearly as a ladies man more than a musician. Like the spelling of its hero's name, the country of this song's origin is uncertain. Also uncertain is the meaning of "donnicks", which appears in the last stanza of most versions. Mr. Jacks confessed ignorance, and scholars devide over whether it means "tomestones" or "drinking mugs".
____________________________________ Robert W Halli Jr.


I was gonna include this in my opening post but it was 2:00 and a man does need rest, you know.

Aaaaaaaaaaaaaagh ! I just looked again at Wordwind's post. In my opening post I misspelled "Donnicks".

I'm sorry.

But I bet ole jheem would have got it anyway.



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as a notherner, i know one of the political songs..

For lincoln and liberty, too, me boys
for lincoln and liberty, too,
we'll drink to the health of the country,
for lincoln and liberty too!

(for fiberbabe--where are you gal?)
there is the oregonian version

covered with acres of trees, of trees,
covered with acres of trees,
there's mountains and hills and valleys,
just covered with acres of trees!

Rosen the beau is a very old song. there are many songs set the same tune. the irish claim it as one of their songs. (but i have nothing to back that claim!)


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Could it have been 'dornicks'?

Main Entry: dor·nick
Pronunciation: 'dor-nik, 'dä-nik
Function: noun
Etymology: probably from Irish dornóg
: a stone small enough to throw; also : a large piece of rock
Meriam Webster


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fiddlesticks, that tune sounded just turrble -- I'd better rosin the bow!


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Really tsuwm, with your highly touted skills of research the best you could do is a play on words? (a pretty good play on words at that) . And Wordwind, is the best you can do is cheat by changing the spelling? Why can't you be more like wwh who came up with "dornicks" like you, but at least he had the courtesy to research for an hour before he was satisfied with his final answer. Thanks Bill, you are the finest researcher on this board since we lost poor lost jheem.

And hey of troy, how neat that you've heard the tune to
"Rosen the Beau". What an interesting snatch of history!




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as a notherner, i know one of the political songs..

For lincoln and liberty, too, me boys
for lincoln and liberty, too,
we'll drink to the health of the country,
for lincoln and liberty too!

(for fiberbabe--where are you gal?)
there is the oregonian version

covered with acres of trees, of trees,
covered with acres of trees,
there's mountains and hills and valleys,
just covered with acres of trees!

Rosen the beau is a very old song. there are many songs set the same tune. the irish claim it as one of their songs. (but i have nothing to back that claim!)



Apparently there are a lot of regional variations of this one. The one I came across first had to do with clamming instead of mining and foresting. See http://www.geocities.com/lilandr/kantoj/diversaj/AcresOfClams1.htm


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Thank you wofahulicodoc, after hearing the interplay of those simple notes I can understand the popularity of this melody through time. I afixed your url to my "favorites" so that I can sing along with the tune from time to time.

Good find. Funny how a song from the deep past can move a modern man like me. Maybe back then they were human too.



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a modern man like me

Don't exagerate, Milo ~ we know you're a Mezosoic master in your bones!


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Foul!
Jackie make Maverick stop. He called me a Mesozoic Master and he knows that I've got pure aryan Paleozoic blood in my bones.
He's making fun of me because he's a Cro-magnom and he can walk mostly upright.


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maverick can do whatever that lovely man wants to do. And, just for the record, he's cute. Heh heh heh.


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he's a Cro-magnom

More like pro-magnum... if the champagne's good and the company better, I don't promise to ever walk upright!


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Or he likes .44 calibre pistols, usually with soft-nosed loads ...


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