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#129720 06/24/04 09:40 PM
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A prim and proper schoolmarm's never-reveled Freudian slip?
Thanks Owlbow for the giggle.


And Hi jj135, welcome aboard.

#129721 06/24/04 09:45 PM
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duhluhmuh (I swear I've heard an USsian pronounce it with three schwas)?

ain't that the correct way? never heard Dy lem ma

i have heard something close to Musick's and dil lemma (as in Ned flanders of Simpson fame saying something like its a dilly of a dil lemma!--but never die lemma. Not even when stuck on horns.. (you know, the famous set of horns of a duhluhmuh)


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The New England Primer was a textbook, first published in 1690, and reprinted in numerous editions. It was used in Boston, in New England, and throughout the Colonies. Because of the high value placed on reading Holy Scripture, many Colonists supported universal literacy. There were no inhibitions to combining religious instruction with teaching the alphabet. Hence, the following:

A In ADAM'S Fall
We sinned all.

B Heaven to find;
The Bible Mind.

C Christ crucify'd
For sinners dy'd.

D The Deluge drown'd
The Earth around.

E ELIJAH hid
By Ravens fed.

F The judgment made
FELIX afraid.

G As runs the Glass,
Our Life doth pass.

H My Book and Heart
Must never part.

J JOB feels the Rod,--
Yet blesses GOD.

K Proud Korah's troop
Was swallowed up

L LOT fled to Zoar,
Saw fiery Shower
On Sodom pour.

M MOSES was he
Who Israel's Host
Led thro' the Sea

N NOAH did view
The old world & new.

O Young OBADIAS,
DAVID, JOSIAS,
All were pious.

P PETER deny'd
His Lord and cry'd.

Q Queen ESTHER sues
And saves the Jews.

R Young pious RUTH,
Left all for Truth.

S Young SAM'L dear,
The Lord did fear.

T Young TIMOTHY
Learnt sin to fly.

V VASHTI for Pride
Was set aside.

W Whales in the Sea,
GOD's Voice obey.

X XERXES did die,
And so must I.

Y While youth do chear
Death may be near.

Z ZACCHEUS he
Did climb the Tree
Our Lord to see.



#129723 06/25/04 09:32 AM
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G As runs the Glass,
Our Life doth pass.


Glass here seems to mean hour glass. Not what I would have thought the first choice from the bare word.


#129724 06/25/04 12:09 PM
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G As runs the Glass,
Our Life doth pass.

Glass here seems to mean hour glass.


Well, I'm sure you're right, but I just thought I'd add that glass (as in window glass) DOES run. If you look at old (say, more than 100 years old) window panes (where the glass has not been replaced) you can clearly see the ripples in the glass, and the bottom edge will be significantly thicker than the top edge. I have heard glass referred to as an extremely viscous liquid, rather than a solid.

Also,

X XERXES did die,
And so must I.

Y While youth do chear
Death may be near.


No wonder the puritans were so dour, eh? Learning to read on stuff like this would put a damper on any kid's spirit.


#129725 06/25/04 12:24 PM
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Somewhere, I seem to remember it as either snopes or Cecil, there was a refutation of this flowing glass story, but a quick search of both of the above fails to find it. The glass, simply enough, was made that way. Another thing stuck in my JDM® is that, if you look around, you will find as much glass that seems to have flowed up as flowed down.


#129726 06/25/04 12:29 PM
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UK primer vs US primmer

The primary pronunciation in the OED, 1st edition, is /'prIm@r/, and the secondary one is /'pr@jm@r/.


#129727 06/25/04 12:55 PM
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My understanding is that 'flowing' glass is a bit of a myth. A lot of glass from before the industrial revolution (in fact, before Pilkington developed the molten lead flow process) was made by spinning blown glass into discs. Even when cut into panes one edge was likely to be slightly thicker than the other - resulting in the dubious claim that it has flowed over time.

As for the 'fact' I was taught in school, that glass is a supercooled liquid (hence 'explaining' its flow), that turns out to be very dubious too. Glass (which refers to a particalar state of matter, rather than a particular substance), is any solid that does not have a defined crystalling state. For this reason it has properties that can be quite different from those of other, crystalline, solids. Apart from this peculiarity, however, all glasses seems to possess all the other properties we'd expect of solids - indices of brittleness and toughness, expansion and contraction due to heating and cooling, quite specific melting points, and so on.

I'm way too lazy to look up internet references (and rather bad at that sort of thing, too) but gathered most of my, albeit surely slightly garbled, information on this by a classic popular science text, The New Science of Strong Materials by J E Gordon. It is, amazingly, still in print after all these years, and available on Amazon. I also recommend its more general companion book Structures. They were published in 1976 and 1978 but haven't dated at all.

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the sunshine warrior


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It might be worthwhile to point out that our dear sjmaxq is posting from New Zealand.


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And glass flows the other way in New Zealand.


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