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#125708 03/24/04 12:19 PM
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Nah, I am not EVEN gonna tell the old story about the milk bath. Well, maybe if someone who hasn't heard it asks me.



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From the time I was a child (1930s) up until my children were approaching their teens (1965) we had daily milk delivery - even during the WWII years when retired milkmen were recalled to old jobs.
The containers were glass, one quart bottles with a cardboard cap that had a tiny flap which allowed easy opening. Cream was delivered in pint bottles and I think it was always heavy cream that could be whipped.
In winter if you didn't take the milk in early the milk would freeze and expand and you'd find the cream - which was on the top of the bottle - above the top of the bottle with the cap jauntily atop the cream!
The Milkman also sold butter and sometimes eggs,too, this was handy when snow storms hit - at least you had something for breakfast. A note in the empty milk bottle was all that was required. Milkmen knew their customers and never seemed to be short of what you needed. Like mailmen, they came in all kinds of weather! The Breadman was also dependable and he had cookies and cakes in addition to bread which, in those days was always white!
After the war, 1945, our milkman told us about the possibility the "bottles" would soon be made of plastic. This, he said would save the company money because plastic bottles could be discarded by homeowners and the truck would not carry the empty milk bottles back to the plant. A lighter load equaling less gas for the truck.
I don't know exactly when home delivery was stopped as we were moving a lot as the Captain's stations changed between 1965 and 1968...but ... when we returned from the Philippines in 1968 home delivery was a thing of the past.
Now I buy milk at corner store or the supermarket and only the Postman still makes daily rounds. In the US before WWII the mail came twice a day - once a day delivery was instituted during the war because of the manpower shortge and never was reinstated.





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We still had home delivery of dairy products available from Dairy Crest Farms when I moved from Denver in July last year. It wasn't overly expensive, and they had a menu you filled out and left on top of the milk box outside the door. The dairy person would fill your order and place it in the box.

They had great cookie dough, though in fairly large (maybe five-pound) sizes. And bagels to die for.



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a word that you have never seen before and all of a sudden it's showing up everywhere.
I think you have to distinguish two cases:
a. subjective only, something to do with triggered awareness
b. the sudden spreading of the thing is real: penetration (as used by the publicity trade), percolation (more physical)


#125712 03/24/04 02:32 PM
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only the Postman still makes daily rounds.

and in urban area's, the newspaper man.

in sub urban areas, there are still newspaperboys with routes and bikes, but in urban areas (like my building) which might have 50 customers in one building, and the route might have a couple of thousand people, newspapers are delivered by adults, who drive cars. billing is by credit card, (but at christmas time, most delivery people will send you a card with their return address clearly marked on the card) but many are great.. i got my times consistant before 7AM--i could leave for work at 7:20 and it was always there.

and in urban area like mine, most grocery stores, (many of which are small compared to sub urban/rural areas) will deliver. you carry home your frozen foods, perhaps your meat purchases (in a small rolling grocery cart) and the bulk of your purchases, (canned goods, staples, fruits and vegetables) are delivered to your door in a hour or less.

this service, for many of the very elderly (over age 80), allows them to live at home. it makes cities a great place to go old. its not cheap, but cheaper than a nursing home.

some stores will take fax orders, or telephone orders, too. so the very old don't even have to leave their houses in the very coldest or stormyest days.


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Oh! Helen! How could I forget newspaper carriers (hitting self on head with wet noodles- e) after all those years in the business! Thanks for the reminder.
There is one supermarket in my area that will deliver orders for a reasonable fee. So far I haven't needed the service but it's nice to know it's available.



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so we reserve our generosity for the dustmen

What are dustmen dxb?


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In Québec, 80% of regular milk is sold in bags holding three, one-litre flexible plastic pouches. Every household has a holder for these pouches. The balance is sold in cartons.

We go through about 1 to 2 litres per day on weekends, and 1/2 litre per day during the week.

Chocolate milk is sold in 1L plastic jugs and cartons.

Bread products were still delivered by breadman until the early eighties. He'd have the usual breads, donuts and cakes along with fresh eggs. He'd always know exactly how much bread we needed, even if we were away when he passed. He'd leave the loaves on the counter beside the door in the kitchen. Those were the days where the doors were never locked.

Milk deliveries stopped in the early seventies.




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Dustmen = household refuse collectors

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Bel, "dustmen" are the guys who pick up your kerbside rubbish ...

"My old man's a dustman,
'E wears a dustman's 'at,
'E wears gorblimey trousers
an' 'e lives in a council flat.
'E looks a proper 'nana
in 'is great big 'obnailed boots.
'E's got such a job to pull 'em on
that 'e calls 'em daisy roots!"


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