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#124469 03/03/04 07:04 PM
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Date: Fri Jul 26 00:51:18 EDT 1996
Subject: A.Word.A.Day--highbinder
high.bind.er \-.bi-n-d*r\ n [the Highbinders, gang of vagabonds in New York City ab1806] 1: a professional killer operating in the Chinese quarter of an American city
2: a corrupt or scheming politician




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I'm familiar with the term but anyone know where it came from? What did they bind and were there lowbinders??


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Dear Zed: here is a long article about the Highbinders
from Harper's Weekly of 1883 (hope I got that right).
It tells a lot about their activities, but I didn't see
a discussion of how the name "Highbinder" originated.


http://216.239.57.104/search?q=cache:fMpKDXlLDrUJ:immigrants.harpweek.com/ChineseAmericans/Items/Item129.htm+Chinese+criminals+highbinders&hl=en&ie=UTF-8

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Then just last week I read a travel guide. It referred to the enforcers of the local Chinese gangs as Highbinders, so-called because they tied their pigtails up out of the way during fights.

Sorry, I don't know how to unwide this.

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how to unwide this

It ain' your fault, Z.


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Sorry, I don't know how to unwide this.

Tie up its pigtail so as to highbind its horizontal length.


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tee hee


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It was wided by Dr Bill's ungeheuer long URL. The onliest thing
you can do is add your own CR-LFs when you think the line is getting
too long.


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I don't think I own a CR-LF and if I did I probably wouldn't want to be seen using it in public!



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It's right at the tip of your right little finger, Z.



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given my last post . . .
Do you mean the Ctrl key??


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Excuse my butting in, but, Faldage, would you decode those initials? Thanks.


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CarriageReturn-LineFeed = Return


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CarriageReturn-LineFeed = Return

As with many thing computational, it depends on the OS (operating system). In plain text files on DOS/Windows, the special character representing the end of a written line of text is a simple CR (carriage return ASCII value 13 in decimal, 0x0D in hex, CR, or ctrl-M), on Un*x it's a simple linefeed or newline character (ASCII value 10, 0x0A, LF, or ctrl-J). On the Mac under pre-MacOsX days it was CR-LF, and now it can be that or a simple Un*x LF.

The first 32 non-printable characters in the ASCII chart are control characters like ctrl-G (bell, BEL), ctrl-I (horizontal tab, HT), and other teletype controlling codes. The last 5 of the first 32 aren't mapped to control sequences, but include the value for the escape (ESC) key.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ascii for more info.



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CarriageReturn-LineFeed = Return

Of course, pre-caffeine, I mixed up the DOS/Windows CR-LF and the pre-X MacOS CR. Sorry about that ... sip.


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My little finger is now going in a vertical direction over my head...

Thanks, Faldage...even though when I hear 'carriage' I think:

typewriter
horse
posture

...not necessarily in that order.


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Deep down in the guts of the machine the carriage return returns the carriage and the line feed moves the
print head down one line relative to the paper. This would be on a movable printhead printer.
Translation to a computer monitor should be reasonably obvious.

Doing one without the other will not produce the desired results:

Just doing a line feed
would produce something like this.

Just doing a carriage return would cause the second line to be printed over the first. Depending on the OS
and the keyboard hitting the return key will generate one, the other or both and the OS will fill in anything
missing to produce the desired result.

Or something like that.



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Duuuh, is thet th big butun whut sez enter?

which on spellcheck comes out as "Dvorak is Thetis Thai big butyl why shabby enter?"


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AttualŪ, it says return on my keyboard.


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Enter be the long, skinny one, over there by the numbahs...



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Mine has two enters and no return. Sounds like a haunted house.


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Mine has no entrance and no exit...just shadowy arrows--spookier still.


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