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"serious" only because of that apparatus.

Egg-zactly!



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>Huh? So whattiya think of country music, Mr. Openess?


By and large, I loathe it. I would not however, dismiss it as "not real songwriting", purely on the grounds that it doesn't suit my personal taste. Just because I don't like it, doesn't mean it isn't music.


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A good song always tells a story...

Yeahbut ® only the ones with *good words and a good melody!

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...the group "The Archies" didn't exist at all.

The next thing your gonna tell me is that the Monkees didn't exist. {holding hands over ears "la-la-la-la-la"}

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When you say "songwriter" my mind leaps immediately to folks like Leonard Cohen, Bob Dylan, Harry Chapin, Joni Mitchell, John Prine, Cat Stevens, James Taylor, etc...

Grouping those together ties songwriter to a specific type/form of song which were not necessarily all good or even less "pop-pabulum", not to mention a (quite)specific *era of writer. You could have at least included Bjork... or even Steely Dan for that matter... but I digress...)


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Steely Dan is great! Dey wuz part of the "etc."

Uh, that's Monkees.




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The next thing your gonna tell me is that the Monkey's didn't exist. {holding hands over ears "la-la-la-la-la"}

After the movie Head was released in '68, one of the Beatles (either John or Paul) said it (and the Monkeys) was an accurate representation of the construction and marketing of a rock band. Just because the Monkeys didn't play their own instruments (no Beatle played on Eleanor Rigby) or write their own songs (Elvis?), you're going to deny them existence. How real were the Sex Pistols then? If the Archies didn't exist how could they have had a hit song on the charts? And don't get me started about Sig Sig Sputnik or Vanilla Ice.


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Two words:

Milli Vanilli


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Milli Vanilli

That was the name I was trying to remember. Not Vanilla Ice. Anywho, it's a far different thing to say something is bad art as opposed to not art. That's all.


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there's also the difference between art and entertainment. sometimes art crosses over and is entertaining, and vice versa. but the two aren't necessarily the same. and aren't meant to be.



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We may personally know a difference between art and entertainment but (*irregardless) they seem to, from what I can tell, have the same basic goals.

Communication/reflection/participation in/through/about ideas/ideals/creativity... maybe?


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er, maybe.
I think that they both want to awaken or resonate with something inside us, but art hopes to reach something much deeper in ourselves than (*mere) entertainment.
hmmm...



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