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#121444 - 01/27/04 08:34 PM Calling all Latinescos  
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What declension is mater?


#121445 - 01/27/04 09:02 PM Re: Calling all Latinescos  
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Mater, matris, is a feminine third declension noun. I hesitated for a second because I thought this might be a trick question, but what the heck ...


#121446 - 01/27/04 09:37 PM Re: Calling all Latinescos  
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Mater,matris reminded me of "matriculate", as to become enrolled in a college that becomes your "alma mater."
I was surprised to find that the derivation is not as direct as I thought. Matrix is ancient word for womb, currently for a list. So matriculating is just getting your
name on a list. Nothing parental except the big bills for
papa to pay.


#121447 - 01/27/04 10:20 PM Re: Calling all Latinescos  
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a college that becomes your "alma mater."

which is to say, your foster mother or wet nurse. And after suckling at the breast of knowledge, you become an alumnus/alumna - foster child.


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which is to say, your foster mother or wet nurse. And after suckling at the breast of knowledge, you become an alumnus/alumna - foster child

Alumnus and alma are both from the PIE root *al- 'to nourish' which gives us English old, as well as Latin adultus and adolescens.

http://www.bartleby.com/61/roots/IE11.html



#121449 - 01/27/04 11:32 PM Re: Calling all Latinescos  
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But "prolix" didn't fit where I thought it might.
prolix

SYLLABICATION: pro·lix
PRONUNCIATION: pr-lks, prlks
ADJECTIVE: 1. Tediously prolonged; wordy: editing a prolix manuscript. 2. Tending to speak or write at excessive length. See synonyms at wordy.
ETYMOLOGY: Middle English, from Old French prolixe, from Latin prlixus, poured forth, extended.
OTHER FORMS: pro·lixi·ty (-lks-t) —NOUN
pro·lixly —ADVERB




#121450 - 01/28/04 12:50 AM Re: Calling all Latinescos  
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*al- 'to nourish' which gives us English old, as well as Latin adultus

And adulter?


#121451 - 01/28/04 02:29 AM Re: Calling all Latinescos  
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Adulter is supposed to be from the same root as Latin ulter 'opposite' and ille 'that' (from Old Latin ollus, *ol-no-s), olim 'once'; Old Irish oll 'big, extensive, broad'.


#121452 - 01/28/04 10:32 PM Re: Calling all Latinescos  
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Wow, that root is all over the place in terms of meaning. "Oll-" is still used in Irish as a modifying prefix: "ollscoil" - "university", "ollmhargadh" - "supermarket".

Anyhow, interesting to learn that adults and adulterers have nothing in common!


#121453 - 01/29/04 09:05 AM Re: Calling all Latinescos  
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Except that you would hope (devoutly) that all adulterers are adults.

I thought I'd posted the answer to Faldo's original query shortly after he'd posted it, but for some reason it didn't stick. I agree that it's 3rdD Fem, but, like jheem, I assumed it was a trick question.

So ... Faldo, whyinole didn't you just look it up? [goofy smiley emoticon-type emoticon]


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