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#120859 - 01/23/04 07:14 PM Re: smack  
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Smack is damned good, too. (Not heroin, but flavor.) Das schmeckt gut!


#120860 - 01/23/04 07:15 PM Re: shmok  
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The three together do seem to some it up: bangle, snake..and fool.


#120861 - 01/23/04 07:17 PM Re: Civilian  
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"Citizen" might do, FS, if I can place it so it sounds a little coarse.


#120862 - 01/23/04 07:25 PM Re: Civilian  
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Musick... Can one just say “a Jimmy”? Is it at all well known?

It has come to mean exactly that... "a Jimmy".

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Here's a quick history.

My best friend's name, who I've known his whole life, is Jimmy. His dad was James, and now his son, James the 4th, has taken over the 'Jimmy' designation.

One of my other close friend's name is James, but he likes to be called Mitch (his middle name), and here's why. He was the youngest brother of three for quite some time as his parents created two sisters afterward, and then finally another brother. The family next door also had a youngest brother named James about the same age. They played together as the grew up together. They were known as 'the Jimmy's'. The joke/saying slowly caught on that anyone's younger brother was a "Jimmy", especially when you'd see someone on the street that kinda looked similar to someone you knew, and he was automatically his younger brother 'Jimmy'. Mitch needed a little *more identity than that when he started high school.

An ex co-worker, surprisingly enough, had a similar reference creep into his language, from what we can tell, out of entirely different circumstances, but in his usage "Jimmy" meant "a regular guy".

And finally, one of my recent "partner's in crime"(so to speak), his name is William James. He insisted on being called William and not Bill, so, quite naturally of course, he became "Jimmy". He calls me "James" (to remind me of his point).

At the place I work, I call people and am called "Jimmy" a number of times a week. It has become a term of comradery. When I'm asked why or what does it mean, I answer you're "one of the guy's" and "part of the team" and that they are "my buddy".

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insel - "Well known" is relative, I guess.


#120863 - 01/23/04 07:31 PM Re: Civilian  
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Musick-- I thought you jimmied doors with a jemmy? --jheem uncle, auntie jem


#120864 - 01/23/04 07:39 PM Re: Civilian  
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'Jimmy" sounds a little off for the context. If I ran across it in that sort of story I'd think someone who broke and entered for a living. 'Citizen' might just be it.


#120865 - 01/23/04 08:09 PM Re: Civilian  
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'Citizen' might just be it.

Now, if we could only quickly convert it into a slang term...

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Maybe with the help of "Just one of" the Jimmys.


#120866 - 01/23/04 08:12 PM Re: Civilian  
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I haven't had a chance to peruse the whole thing, but this might prove to be generally useful:
http://www.miskatonic.org/slang.html


#120867 - 01/23/04 08:40 PM Re: Civilian  
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I have seen both "cit" a slightly demeaning but basically meaning "not one of us" and "4F" originally referring to someone who couldn't pass the army physical but later to any mere civilian. As in "No &#%@^#* 4F is going to tell me I can't dance with his girl."



#120868 - 01/23/04 10:02 PM Re: Civilian  
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'Cit,' '4F,' or Jimmy might do very nicely. I especially like "Jimmy;" this might simply be because a couple of Brooklynites I went to college with liked to say "Oh, Jimmy! Oh, Jimmy! Oh, Jones!" when they were excited -- not to say that's especially witty, just that, for me, there's a bit of nostalgia tied up with it it. 'Jimmy' would need setting up, which is doable. As to 'being at all well known' being relative, Mr. Musick, it needs to be known well enough for most people to follow. ;)


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