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#115152 - 11/07/03 02:19 PM Re: Freedom Fries  
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Of course, since French fries are in no particular way French and the cuisine they are normally associated with would revolt any thinking French gourmet, we were really doing them a favor by changing the name, a point that, I believe, Dave Barry brought up.


#115153 - 11/07/03 02:56 PM Re: Freedom Fries  
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Of course, since French fries are in no particular way French and the cuisine they are normally associated with would revolt any thinking French gourmet, we were really doing them a favor by changing the name,...

Very true! Funny how we tack country names in front of foods that they have nothing to do with.

BTW, if you haven't listened to it, you might want to check out David Sedaris's comments on the French/American relations on This American Life back in March. Still very funny, IMHO.

http://207.70.82.73/pages/descriptions/03/235.html

(Click on the RealAudio icon. It's located in Act III at about 26 minutes).


#115154 - 11/07/03 10:57 PM Re: Francophobia  
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And I just read that sales of French wines in the US have recently gone up . . . ?


#115155 - 11/08/03 01:12 AM Re: Francophobia  
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And I just read that sales of French wines in the US have recently gone up . . . ?

Could be. I hadn't read that, but it wouldn't surprise me if this senseless hate-fest has a big backlash. There seems to be a turn of the tide right now where some folks are coming to their senses. Personally I hope it lasts.


#115156 - 11/08/03 08:19 PM Re: Francophobia  
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I'm not sure that the recent, increasing sales of French wine has much to do with international politics. I do know that my mother has recently fallen off the wagon again.





Ron.


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#115157 - 11/08/03 08:48 PM Re: Francophobia  
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I do know that my mother has recently fallen off the wagon again.

I'm very sorry to hear that, Ron. I've been clean & sober (well sober at least ) since 2/11/97. It isn't always easy. Sometimes it's damn hard, actually. Does she have a mentor that she (or you) can contact to help her get back on track? I know you don't know me really, but please feel free to e-mail me if you want to talk.

Dawn


#115158 - 11/09/03 11:38 AM Re: Francophobia  
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Dawn:
I don't really know how to say this; I'm afraid I've just committed my 1st fuax-pas at this board. Let me start by thanking you sincerely for your caring and tender concern. It's rare these days.

The truth is: My comment about my mother was false; her 'falling of the wagon' was intended as a farciacal reason for increased wine sales. My comments certainly weren't intended to to minimize anyone's struggle with alcohol.

Actually, Mom died just under two years ago, after nearly 20 years of clean sobriety, following a lifetime of alcoholism which, no doubt, negatively impacted her ability to recover from serious illness.

I was very proud of her choice to turn her life around in its later years, as she served as an example to many others, some in my own family, of what's possible.

I have this dry sense of humor, which doen't always translate to the page. Your heartfelt response is living proof of that. I appreciate it.

PS: Congratulations on your ongoing recovery, and especially so since since your 'first day' was 2/11 --my birthday.

Best wishes


Ron.


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#115159 - 11/09/03 07:57 PM Re: Francophobia  
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Hi Ron

I'm sorry to hear about your mother's death. Very sad. But glad she was able to beat the drink. I drank for a couple years after my son was Dx'ed with autism, then I came to my senses and decided to live instead. Not an easy choice.

I have this dry sense of humor, which doen't always translate to the page. Your heartfelt response is living proof of that. I appreciate it.

I think a dry sense of humor is great. On of my many character flaws is being gullible and way too literal at times. But I'm learning.

Best to You,
Dawn


#115160 - 11/09/03 09:28 PM Re: Francophobia  
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Many welcomes gifthorse and delfarmer!

#115161 - 11/10/03 02:41 AM Re: Francophobia  
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On(e) of my many character flaws is being ....way too literal at times.

That's a character flaw? Damn! i'm not perfect!



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