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#113100 - 10/24/03 06:23 PM Re: connotation v. denotation  
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"Wordwind went to the shop. The connotation of that is that she needed to buy some groceries."

That sounds more like implication than connotation to me.


#113101 - 10/24/03 11:12 PM Re: connotation v. denotation  
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Nero Wolfe once burned a dictionary because it stated that imply and infer were synonyms.

and WW I'm definitely female and often feminine but not always ladylike.[batting eyelashes -e]

#113102 - 10/26/03 08:34 AM Re: connotation v. denotation  
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and here's a late entry for this thread from a book I'm currently reading, Bernard Dick's 'Anatomy of film':

denotation and connotation are not distinct in film. A movie denotes and connotes at the same time. When Isak Borg raises a glass of wine in Bergman's 'Wild strawberries', he is Isak Borg who at that moment is having lunch with his daughter-in-law and some young hitchhikers; he is also Isak Borg the priest figure, officiating at a communion service and elevating not a wineglass but a chalice

[Discuss! -- and apologies if the film (made in Sweden in 1957) is not familiar to some AWADers]


#113103 - 10/26/03 10:49 AM Re: connotation v. denotation  
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...and symbols may operate as both denotations and connotations at the same moment.

It has been over 30 years since I saw "Wild Strawberries"--and it is now just a wash of black and white images. A group of people on a hillside--eating strawberries--and was that the one in which Death makes an appearance? I need to refresh my memory because the story has virtually faded away. More of "Cries and Whispers" has stayed with me over the years, come to think of it...


#113104 - 10/27/03 03:17 AM Take your pick, Dub Dub  
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#113105 - 10/27/03 11:01 AM Re: connotation v. denotation  
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denotation and connotation are not distinct in film. A movie denotes and connotes at the same time.

Uh-huh. And this somehow makes film different from anything else?


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