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I had the television on a little while ago, and while surfing for something that seemed suitable to have on as background while I worked, I came across the Osbourne family show. The brother and sister were having a fight. Later, in telling their parents about it, the boy said, "She came down here and confrontated me". When he addressed his sister, he said, "When you confrontate me..." Is this becoming common? I meant to post this link a few days ago, when this article was in our paper. It's about words being added to and dropped from dictionaries. Well, one, anyway. http://www.courier-journal.com/features/columns/popculture/2003/20030708pop.html
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Is this becoming common?
I suspect not, but it's doubtless legitimitated from usage such as disorientated... <eg>
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maverick uh, c'mere a minute...I have something for you.
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"The Osbournes" is in English? Mercy!
Amazing.
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More Saxon than English I'm afraid.  I was quite put out to learn that orientate (and therefore probably disorientate) are correct and separate from orient (and disorient?) Ha, my spellcheck offers disown for disorientate - which I'd like to.
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disown for disorientate - which I'd like to
oh, but methinks our Jackie would be loth to see that go, forsooth!
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Keep it up and I'll forsooth you, sir! [trying to hide twitching lips e]
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What's wrong with disorientated? Perfectly normal word I would have thought, no?
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What's wrong with disorientated?
oog. just one of those words that sounds like it has extra, unnecessary syllables...
or did I just get hit with a faceful of irony, and missed it? [blergh]
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Perfectly normal word I would have thought, no? AUGH! No, no, no! People get oriented or disoriented--that extra "ate" syllable does not belong! [gnashing of teeth e] That's even worse than preventative.
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That's even worse than *preventative.
Is that because you're 'used to' *it?
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One times ate and poor Jackie's ready to leave the table!
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Say what you will about orientate; it has always been a verb. Orient is a verbed noun.
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it has always been a verb
Exactly. I just always thought it was a modern abomination. (still sounds annoying though)
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a modern abomination
An early modern abomination is more like it. If memory serves it dates back to about 1645. Orient as a verb dates to about ten years earlier. Again, if memory serves.
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re: If memory serves it dates back to about 1645. Orient as a verb dates to about ten years earlier. Again, if memory serves.
Gee you are an old coot faldage! but you wear your age well, i woodna guess'd you to be much more than 55 or 60.. but if you remember 1600's, well, hell, i am impressed!
what's the your secret to longevity? i hope you share it at lest with your lovely wife!
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longevity? i hope you share it at lest with your lovely wife!Geez Loiuse, ain't dat gettin a bit poisonal? 
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dates back to about 1645.
so, somebody couldn't talk back then, either?
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Memory didn't serve. That was some other word that has two versions, one thoroughly dissed by the prescrips.
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other word that has two versions
Orient/Orientate and/or, Preventive/Preventative, reminds me of two other such words whose usage has at times, confused and annoyed.
1. Legitimate (as verb) versus Legitimise
2. Disputation versus Dispute (as noun)
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3. Regnant versus Reigning (as adj.)
Can these words be loosely swapped, one for the other or are they situation specific?
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I now think that memory had been mispointed from alterate, the evil twin of alter.
It wasn't alterate, either. Alter's evil twin dates to 1475 (alter is from a hundred years earlier, 1374)
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