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Previous Thread Next Thread Print Thread Page 1 of 2 1 2 botanicals #106629 06/29/03 06:01 PM 06/29/03 06:01 PM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont Buffalo Shrdlu OP Carpal Tunnel Buffalo Shrdlu   OP Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont http://www.geefarms.com/terms.htm thought that the gardeners amongst us might find something worthwhile in this list. and Dr. Bill can have a field day! formerly known as etaoin... Re: botanicals #106630 06/29/03 07:32 PM 06/29/03 07:32 PM Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,858 W wwh Carpal Tunnel wwh   Carpal Tunnel W Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,858 Dear etaoin: I remember being told in biochemistry that "belladonna" the plant, was so named because Italian ladies thought that the atropine effect of dilating pupils made them more attractive. I am sceptical that this could ever have been popular, because those who took it would also have their vision blurred disagreeably. I once almost cut off a finger using a circular saw before the effects of atropine given me for a refraction had worne off, and my depth perception was badly impaired. I went to pick up a cut piece, and put my hand right into the saw. Re: botanicals #106631 06/29/03 11:28 PM 06/29/03 11:28 PM Joined: May 2003 Posts: 4 Florida H habrotrocha stranger habrotrocha   stranger H Joined: May 2003 Posts: 4 Florida Belladonna ladies operating circular saws? Try to get your teeth, if you can, into that scene. Belladonna ladies had to operate (at most) the draping of an arm across a dancing partner's shoulders or the lifting of that last glass of wine to their pouty, expectant lips. J. Potter J. Potter Re: botanicals #106632 06/29/03 11:56 PM 06/29/03 11:56 PM Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 5,400 rego park of troy Carpal Tunnel of troy   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 5,400 rego park it is normal for human pupils to dilate when they are sexually excited.. so i suspect the belladonna was used to make it seem like the ladies were enjoying themselves.. and looking excited, i suspect, also made them look more attactive.. (and by looking at them through bleary eyes, perhaps their companions, as well!) my other obsession Re: botanicals #106633 06/30/03 12:12 AM 06/30/03 12:12 AM Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,858 W wwh Carpal Tunnel wwh   Carpal Tunnel W Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,858 Dear habrotrocha: Glad to see you post. I have sent you a PM. Bill Re: botanicals #106634 06/30/03 11:47 AM 06/30/03 11:47 AM Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,692 UK D dxb Pooh-Bah dxb   Pooh-Bah D Joined: Mar 2002 Posts: 1,692 UK it is normal for human pupils to dilate when they are sexually excited.. You are speaking from experience as a teacher? Re: botanicals #106635 06/30/03 12:11 PM 06/30/03 12:11 PM Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 Faldage Carpal Tunnel Faldage   Carpal Tunnel Joined: Dec 2000 Posts: 13,803 it is normal for human pupils to dilate when they are sexually excited This was confirmed in a study that was mentioned in Scientific American many years ago. I would also imagine that the helplessness engendered by the fuzziness of vision resulting from the use of belladonna was also a turn on for the gentlemen of the time. Re: botanicals #106636 06/30/03 12:30 PM 06/30/03 12:30 PM Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,858 W wwh Carpal Tunnel wwh   Carpal Tunnel W Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,858 I searched for "belladonna aphrodisiac" and got a bunch of hits. Here's one: http://www.alchemy-works.com/scopolia.html You wouldn'catch me trying it. Anyway, I never needed any. Re: botanicals #106637 06/30/03 02:20 PM 06/30/03 02:20 PM Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont Buffalo Shrdlu OP Carpal Tunnel Buffalo Shrdlu   OP Carpal Tunnel Joined: Jun 2002 Posts: 7,210 Vermont Anyway, I never needed any. ah, you old rapscallion! formerly known as etaoin... Re: botanicals #106638 06/30/03 06:49 PM 06/30/03 06:49 PM Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,858 W wwh Carpal Tunnel wwh   Carpal Tunnel W Joined: Jan 2001 Posts: 13,858 Mentioned in Plutarch's Live of Lysander" "the Cretan storax" storax n. 5ME < L storax, styrax < Gr styrax, of Sem orig., as in Heb tsori, terebinth resin6 1 the aromatic balsam exuded by liquidambar trees, used in medicine and perfumery 2 a fragrant, solid resin obtained from a small, E Mediterranean tree (Styrax officinalis) of the storax family, formerly used as incense 3 any of a genus (Styrax) of chiefly tropical trees and shrubs of the storax family, with drooping clusters of showy white flowers adj. designating a family (Styracaceae, order Ebenales) of widely distributed dicotyledonous trees or shrubs, as the snowbell Page 1 of 2 1 2 Moderated by  Jackie  Hop To General Topics ------   Information and announcements   Q&A about words   Wordplay and fun   Words and languages in schools   Miscellany   Weekly Themes   Looking for (writers, speakers, ...) 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