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#10664 11/17/00 07:01 PM
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>You mention this to a lady from Loo-uh-vulle?
do you mean lou-ee-ville?
or Lou-vil?

Common joke in US-- how do you pronounce the capital of Kentucky?
Lou-vil?
lou-ee-ville?
Loo-uh-vulle?

Jackie will be glad to share the answer!


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that although the Brits are enamoured of all these aextra letters, when it comes to saying them it's "whoa nelly!"

You mention this to a lady from Loo-uh-vulle?


ufda! what's this got to do with taking a name such as Raymond Luxury Yacht and pronouncing it Throat Warbler Mangrove?

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I would pronounce these words in the same way as Jackie. A bit of a clarification though.

Here we use veterinary in two ways:
1) as the study, and medicine, of domestic animals
2) the place where a veterinarian works, but in this case we always tack on the word hospital (veterinary hospital).

Is this the same everywhere? I am getting the impression that they are interchangeable in the U.K.

In French we only have the one word. Just vétérinaire for the person and hôpital vétérinaire for the place. Perhaps this is where the use was picked up.



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ufda! what's this got to do with taking a name such as Raymond Luxury Yacht and pronouncing it Throat Warbler Mangrove?

As much as I enjoyed the reference, supererogatory is supererogatory, however many letters are involved, and the "is" in Louisville is utterly supererogatory. If u Yanx r so hot on dspensin with unecesary letrs, the least u can do is b consistnt.



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Here we use veterinary in two ways:
1) as the study, and medicine, of domestic animals
2) the place where a veterinarian works, but in this case we always tack on the word hospital (veterinary hospital).


I almost always hear veterinary used as in veterinary medicine or veterinary hospital. If I were to refer to either the place or the person I would use veterinarian.

We say 'take the cats to the veterinarian,' whether we mean Dr Wendy or Cary Animal Clinic

Veterinary=adj. Veterinarian=noun?


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>the "is" in Louisville is utterly supererogatory.

wha? I don't understand your point. according to The History of Louisville website "Legend has it that the town was named after settler Henry Lautzenheiser's son Lewis, but the name was later changed to Louisville when it was discovered that a Lewisville already existed in Monroe County." anyway, Louis can be pronounced Lew-iss or Lew-ee; Lew/Lou is a rather different name. St. Louis, for instance, isn't commonly referred to as St. Loo.


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[quote]I have always been encouraged to pronounce the word, "vetin'ry" - with the "i" almost as a schwa.


Interesting. It is harder to imagine an accent further removed from RP than mine own, yet that is exactly how we were encouraged to say the word. RP and NyuZuld - strange bedfellows indeed!


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the "is" in Louisville is utterly supererogatory.

wha? I don't understand your point


Sorry, tsuwm, just another failed joke on my part. Jackie once told me that natives pronounce it Lou-uh-vulle. Hence, instead of "is" it ought to be spelled with a schwa, the "is" being redundant. Mea culpa


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OK, all you wanna-be cowpokes!
As the one and only native-born resident expert on Louisville, KY, on this Board, I invoke my full authority as such in making these next statements.

First, if you were raised here, you say LOO-uh-vull, but in the same amount of time it takes to say one syllable.

Second--this city was named in honor of le roi Louis XVI of France, for his help during the American Revolution. He and his family would have been upset if we'd dropped the
'is', as was suggested. I know--I asked him.

Third--I was surprised that no one commented on the fact that Louisville ain't the capital of Caintuck.


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Max Quordlepleen wrote: Interesting. It is harder to imagine an accent further removed from RP than mine own, yet that is exactly how we were encouraged to say the word. RP and NyuZuld - strange bedfellows indeed!

I actually blame the spread of Zild on today's TV announcers. They used to have to ape RP, but now they don't even have to be able to speak in English sentences. My (English) mother had fits over this. My (Zild-speaking) father was happy that all the pretension had been dropped. I just spoke Zild like all of my contemporaries (sounds of vowels being flattened underfoot).

I hear "VET-nary" most often. Usually, though, it's just "Vet".






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