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Re: double dactyls #102519
05/10/03 03:42 PM
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Faldage and tsuwm: Thank you both for your thorough and specific explanations of double-dactyl scanning. The English-language dictionaries I consulted all gave "oeuvre" two syllables (I hadn't looked it up beforehand). As for "Nowadays, we'd call it," I did hear the (secondary?) stress on "call." Both of these were open questions to me while I was composing.

Coffeebean and Zed: Thanks for your pleasant remarks.

Wofahulicodoc: I enjoyed your poem and agree with its sentiment.


NI =W #102520
05/10/03 04:10 PM
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"NI3" is Webster's New International Dictionary, 3rd Edition.

in these parts, a.k.a. W3

Autre temps, autre moeurs. "Other times, other customs." Totally fabricated-on-the-spot rationalization why my way is better: why use a three-syllable word when two syllables will do?

By either name I've never liked that dictionary, except maybe to check spelling. I've never forgiven them for including "uninterested" as a synonym for "disinterested." Among other transgressions.
(Besides, who ya gonna believe - me or some strange dictionary?)


Re: NI = W #102521
05/10/03 04:31 PM
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this too shall pass
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Totally fabricated-on-the-spot rationalization why my way is better: why use a three-syllable word when two syllables will do?

Well-thought-out online casuistry: why use three letters when two will do. regarding W3 trangressions: you have to understand their mission: to provide a description of "American" English. detractors read descriptive as permissive.

(I apologize if I was seeming to correct your usage of NI3; I've just been using W3 here and wanted to provide some continuity.)


Re: NI = W #102522
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Yes, I took your usage to be descriptive rather than prescriptive ;-)

I know their mission; I just consider it a sad abrogation of responsibility. I guess that tells me which side of the fence I sit on !

Re: double dactyls #102523
05/10/03 06:03 PM
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I have difficulty saying 'oeuvre' as one sylLAble.. (Ahem.) You are too sensitive.


Re: double dactyls #102524
05/10/03 06:27 PM
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I have difficulty saying "oeuvre" at all!


Re: double dactyls #102525
05/10/03 07:26 PM
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can I get some eggs, please?



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Re: double dactyls #102526
05/10/03 08:48 PM
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some eggs, please

I'll work on it.


Re: No diatribes allowed #102527
05/10/03 11:15 PM
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OK, sorry to whomever I used to "reply" to but this thread has veered away from the original purpsose...

Dag and I wrote a nice one after working hard to come up with a double dactyl name. Here ya go:

Waka-tow, waka-tow,
Jaco Pastorius
Bass virtuoso, was
Second to none.
He was convinced of his
Invincibility
Taunted a bully, his
Short life was done.

So there! I almost never contribute to these poetry things!


Re: Jeez… OK #102528
05/11/03 01:59 PM
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Orthodox Shmorthodox
Judas Iscariot
bad-mouthed by many
for his perceived crime

Had he not done it then
incontravertibly
Christian religion would
just be small time.


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