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Like what... truth, beauty... my spleen?
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but the two aren't necessarily the same. and aren't meant to be.
Yep, I wasn't saying they should be. Just that for some critical judgment boils down to whether something was entertaining or not. Me, I find things entertaining that many find boring or ugly.
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spleenheh, or kidneys if the concert's a good one...  Yep, I wasn't saying they should be. Just that for some critical judgment boils down to whether something was entertaining or not. Me, I find things entertaining that many find boring or ugly.right. I'm just discussing.  it's that critical judgement piece that's missing for so many, I think. art makes me feel a connection with life, the universe and everything. entertainment can send me there, too, sometimes. some "art" never takes me there, though it may be entertaining. you mean you all don't agree?!
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As fun as that sounded... AHD remembers:
spleen...
... 2. Obsolete - This organ conceived as the seat of emotions or passions.
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 so many possibilities...
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Jheem:
The Sex Pistols played their own instruments, albeit poorly at first. One of the basic tenets of punk rock was to go ahead and get out there and play, even if the talent wasn't yet up to snuff. It was in reaction to the overblown excesses of stadium rock at the time. Now, whether or not they were worth listening to is a question of taste. Me? I loved 'em!
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Oops! I don't think I absorbed your Pistols post before I reacted to it. My apologies. Touchy subject for this aging punk rocker.
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"God save the Queen" 
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Not a problem, Comma-Doug. I loved the Sex Pistols. They transcended their Monkeehood. Never Mind the Bollocks is a great album. With praise like Sir Cliff Richards gives in the link below, who needs anything else? My first time in London, during that horrendous heatwave in '76, I witnessed some punk scariness in Finsbury Park that has stayed with me over the decades. Certainly put the weekend punks in Berekeley during the '80s and '90s into perspective. (BTW, ever heard the French version of Anarchy in the UK?) http://www.thefilthandthefury.co.uk/home.htmNow, to tie this post in with words and etymologies. Let's see we already did bollocks. How about the fact that band is plural in British English? Cf. the Beatles' "the band are not quite right" in Only a Northern Song.
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If The Archies didn't exist how could they have had a hit song on the charts?> Most ‘60s bubblegum groups were faceless studio concoctions, made up of hired professionals and given nominal group identities after the fact. The Archies made no pretense of being a real band in the first place — their music, including the smash hit "Sugar, Sugar," was “performed" by the animated TV cartoon characters spun off from Archie comics. In reality, of course, they were a studio concoction made up of hired professionals (most notably lead singer Ron Dante), but in this case, they weren't technically faceless.The Archies were created by promoter Don Kirshner, who was coming off of a major success as the creator of the Monkees. In late 1967, Kirshner was hired as music supervisor for CBS' new Saturday morning cartoon The Archie Show, which was to feature a new original song every week. He immediately brought on producer Jeff Barry, who with Ellie Greenwich had formed one of the pre-eminent songwriting teams of the girl-group era (Greenwich also sang on several Archies records). Kirshner's original choice for lead singer was Kenny Karen, but Barry brought in Ron Dante, an experienced session singer who'd fronted the Detergents' novelty parody "Leader of the Laundromat"; Dante had met Barry at a Neil Diamond session, and had previously cut promos for Kirshner. Dante won the job, and Barry hired Jeanie Thomas as the group's female vocalist. When the TV show debuted, it was a hit, and the first Archies single "Bang Shang-a-Lang" nearly made the Top 20 in late 1968. Shortly thereafter, Barry hired songwriter/backing vocalist Andy Kim, and replaced Thomas with Toni Wine. Barry and Kim co-wrote "Sugar, Sugar," which became a breakout smash in 1969; it topped the charts for four weeks, sold over three million copies in the U.S. alone, and wound up as Billboard's number one song of the year. Meanwhile, the TV show was expanded to a full hour, and Dante enjoyed a simultaneous Top Ten hit during "Sugar, Sugar"'s run, thanks to his lead vocal on the Cufflinks' "Tracy." The follow-up "Jingle Jangle" reached the Top Ten, but from there the Archies' chart success tailed off quickly. Their last Top 40 hit came in the spring of 1970 with "Who's Your Baby?"; the same year, Donna Marie replaced Toni Wine. However, by the end of 1970, Barry left the Archies to pursue other projects, and stories detailing the group's breakup named their primary personnel for the first time. Their final Barry-produced single was released in early 1971, although "A Summer Prayer for Peace" became a hit in South Africa later that summer. Ron Dante embarked on a short-lived solo career before moving into record production, and found substantial success as Barry Manilow's producer throughout the ‘70s; he also returned to singing on commercial jingles. Andy Kim went on to score a substantial solo hit in 1974 with "Rock Me Gently."< Allmusic.com: http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&uid=UIDSUB040402062324300083&sql=Brn6uak4k5m3mI rest my case.
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But aren't voices a type of instrument?
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