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#121342 01/26/04 08:33 PM
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> there are some in Australia who don't celebrate the day as such, instead it has been called "Invasion Day" ...

Yeahbut®, at least they would get Midnight Oil at their parties! Hope y'all had a good one. At least a better one than Hewitt and Phillipoussis did, at any rate.


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I think the rivalry exists because you all told me it exists, but I don't know why it exists.

It would make fascinating reading here should someone write a bit--even at length--about this rivalry. Perhaps not on this thread, but somewhere under Information and Announcements.

And, since we're on the topic of New Zealand and Australia, I just wanted to mention that we have an assistant principal from Wales, but I thought he was from Australia when I first heard him speak. Does this strike you as being strange at all, hev? My incorrect ear, that is, or is there a similarity between the Welsh accent and the Australian? As I've become accustomed to his voice, he doesn't sound Australian anymore, but there is still something there that doesn't sound Irish, Scottish or English--and it sounds somehow more like Australian!


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Australia has a day to itself? A whole day? How did that happen? They were sent to the corner with a dunce's cap on 200-odd years ago, and for mine are there still! What's this about them getting their own bloody day?


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>Australia has a day to itself? A whole day?. . . What's this about them getting their own bloody day?


Relax, Capfka, the joke's on them. Australia Day is also Auckland Anniversary Day. Wonderfully apt, no?


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WW, on a slightly more serious note, my page has links to several sites that discuss Strine, NZ English, and to one page that analyses the differences between them.


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the rivalry exists because you all told me it exists

Is this akin to "I think, therefore I am"? Anyhow, who needs a reason? Is "just for the fun of it" a good enough reason?

we have an assistant principal from Wales, but I thought he was from Australia when I first heard him speak. Does this strike you as being strange at all, hev?

Not particularly strange, WW, although I have also worked with a Welshman, and there's no way I'd have mistaken him for an Aussie. Maverick may be the person with the most opinion (and/or knowledge) about this matter...


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Oh, I've heard Maverick speak and he doesn't sound anything like our assistant principal. Maverick's accent--whatever it is and whatever the influences of wherever he's lived--is very, very pure without high-energy vowels, as I'd describe our assistant principal. Mav' isn't Welsh, is he? I thought he was English.

Oh, well. I suppose today is the day I might get this all straight...


Edit: And I think the rivalry exists without knowing or believing it exists simply because the rivalry is spoken of here--but this is the length and breadth of my experience of the rivalry. So I also wonder how much there is to the rivalry. However, it will be so much more fun to read the comments now that I have Cap and Max in one corner and you, hev, and Stales in the other, not that we hear from Stales too much these days though I wish he'd return!

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Oh, Mav's a Pom through and through. No Welsh influence there.


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WW, is your colleague perhaps from New South Wales, rather than Wales? They are as different as England and New England.

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No, not from New South Wales. He's simply from Wales. But there is something in his accent that is at least reminiscent of Australian. I will ask him why whenever the ice melts and we get to return to school, not that I'm eager to return. These snow/ice days are professional perks. Maybe his parents were from Australia. Oh, well. I shall ask. I don't suppose Welsh sounds anything at all like Australian English, does it, in any of the vowell sounds?


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