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assumed that the cedilla had been omitted
As it so often is.
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you would think no one here had ever studied FrenchWho's this "no one," keemosabe? 
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I want to agree with Anna : " Y'all 're wrong about the pronunciation ".
The happiest years of my life were spent in the Province of Quebec , a beautiful place with
great contradictions.
Quebecois is often pronounced Qua Bec Kwah ...the K sounded. The phonological features of French
spoken in Quebec differs from area to area within the province and is sometimes at odds
with French of France.
To the to real Quebecois it is Ke Bec Kwah and not Qua Bec Kwah.
In the Pronciation phonitique de l'alphabet francais.....qu is pronounced like "k" the
"u" is not pronounced.
I say 'real' because they differentiate themselves or more appropriately, Seperate themselves
among themselves. If Rene Levesque , Jean Chretien , Jean Drapeau , Pierre Trudeau and
Robert Bourassa were in a building , you'll probably find the latter two somewhere out on
the portico with the others hudled around the fire speaking Joual...these fine gentlemen..all
Quebecers are regarded differently among themselves based on speech patterns.
To emphasize the point , a controversial book came out [don't remember name or author] in the mid
seventies that said ....and I paraphrase....that to be born in Quebec and to have a french
sounding name doesn't make you a Quebecer...rather it is the nasal and phonological speech
pattern that you have.......and to crown it all ....you have to be born with it. Bonjour
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Thanks, caram.! I'm glad to know what's correct; I'd always thought the last syllable was 'swa'.  (I hope you don't mind me shortening your name, here. I do love the whole thing: what a happy sound--makes me think of dancing!)
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That's a great explanattion carambola, but it did have one negative effect. It made me really wish that this Board's native Quebecoise was here.
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It's usually said about Jean Chretien that he's impossible to comprehend in either official language. I actually heard a thing on the radio where a linguist was talking about the types of mistakes he made - these were easy to study because his speeches are almost always recorded, and quite often "made off the cuff", showing very clearly his unique oratorial style. (Emphasis on the word unique!!!!)
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>It's usually said about Jean Chretien that he's impossible to comprehend in either official language.
Appropriately enough, several of my Canuck friends call him, no doubt with the deepest affection and respect, King Jean Poutine.
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Jean Poutine
That's probably a reference to a This Hour Has 22 Minutes skit in which one of the guys approached Dubya, probably shortly after has was "elected", and told him something along the lines of "blah blah blah...Prime Minister of Canada Jean Poutine congratulates you on your win, blah blah blah" and Dubya just said "Thank you" without realizing the name was wrong.
Now, it wasn't really fair because there was a lot of commotion and it'd be easy to miss the switched name. However, we can still feel a little indignant, since we're their nearest neighbours and the skit basically showed he doesn't even know our Prime Minister's name...
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"Yuh tellin' me they have a Prih Ministuh up thehr?....Whut's a Prih Mistinuh?"
Damn, I can't even write the accent.
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late to this thread....
btw, I always heard keh'-bek-wah
I know y'all figgered it out but I just wanted to add that I recently learned that in pronouncing French words, there's a rule you can follow with regard to whether you pronounce the last letter or not. Vowels, you don't - but if it's a consonant, do you? You do - if it's one of the consonants from the word "careful".
Hence the difference in pronunciation of Quebeçois (final letter "s" and therefore not pronounced) and Quebeçoise - the latter's final letter is "e" (not pronounced, but the "s" now is because it is no longer the final letter - if that makes any sense!).
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