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Dear Maurice: a spelling bee word "tergiversation" reminded me of your "retranca"
tergiversate
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L tergiversatus, pp. of tergiversari, to turn one‘s back, decline, shift < tergum, the back (see fol.) + versari, to turn: see VERSE6
1 to desert a cause, party, etc.; become a renegade; apostatize
2 to use evasions or subterfuge; equivocate
ter#gi[ver[sa4tion
n.
ter4gi[ver[sa#tor
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An interesting set of posts. Retranca is more slippery and evasive than an aggressive withdrawl or refusal so evasions or subterfuge is entirely appropriate in this context.
It is a very powerful word and I think it should be introduced into our shared language as a matter of priority.
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more slippery and evasive than an aggressive withdrawl or refusal
Sounds like waffler comes close. BTW, what variety of Spanish is this from? It doesn't seem to be the standard defintion in any dictionary I've looked it up in. Haven't checked my Diccionario de Mejicanismos yet.
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My Pequeño Larousse Ilustrado does not list this definition, either, although it does give a fig. meaning that roughly translates: to be extremely cautious.
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Checked my Diccionario de Mejicanismos and it goes with the brake thangie but also list a definition that I can't quite get a handle on. It includes the word ataharre in a definition that seems otherwise to be referring to the south end of a north facing horse. I am unable to find anything anywhere on the word ataharre.
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ataharre: Correa de cuero que sujeta la silla, y rodea los ijares y ancas de la caballería para impedir que el aparejo se corre hacia adelante-Pequeño Larousse Ilustrado
Sounds to me like the ataharre is the cinch and maybe something more. It is a leather strap that attaches to the saddle, runs between the ribs and the hips of the horse, goes around the rump (presumably the strap that goes under the horse's tail) that prevents the saddle from sliding forward. I'm not up on the terminology in English. Anyone know what it's called?
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a leather strap that attaches to the saddle...that prevents the saddle from sliding forward...know what it's called? That's called the cinch....isn 't it? For more information than we are likely ever to need about saddles, take a look at http://www.rrvfsbo.com/articles/wessadpts.htm . And that's just for western saddles. There's apparently an English saddle, too, which is a horse of another color entirely.
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crupper
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5ME crouper < OFr cropiere < crope, rump < Frank *kruppa: see CROP6
1 a padded leather strap passed around the base of a horse‘s tail and attached to the saddle or harness to keep it from moving forward
2 the croup of a horse
3 [Colloq.] the buttocks
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Aha! That's it! Muchas gracias, Dr. Bill.
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crupper n.
1 a padded leather strap passed around the base of a horse‘s tail and attached to the saddle or harness to keep it from moving forward
...clearly exactly what was asked for, and not even mentioned on the site I found. I wonder how much variability/idiosyncracy there is in the field ?
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