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#73975 07/01/02 10:25 PM
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Wow, over in Q and A noted the important days in the celtic calendar,
http://wordsmith.org/board/showthreaded.pl?Cat=&Board=words&Number=74623

i was born at the break on dawn on Beltane, as the doors of the heavens opened, and those from the spirit world, were free to visit this earthy place.. my lust cry caught their attentions, and they blessed me.

so when you say but blowsy barmaids may be something (whispers) entirely different you are closer to the truth than you know..



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blowsy barmaids ... Banshee wails

If said barmaid (much to her dismay) is caught perpetrating a criminal act,
can we then expect that the Outlaw Blowsy Wails?




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#73978 07/03/02 10:26 AM
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my lusty cry caught their attentions

Yeah, and like parents everywhere they probably thought:
"What the hell have I let myself in for here?!"


(Actually I tell a lie - the first thoughts are far less coherent than that )


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Then of course, there's also spinster and dowager.
But why do single older women seem to have several nomenclatures when single men of any age are simply relegated to bachelor or confirmed bachelor?
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Ah but, dowager is completely different to spinster.

A spinster is a single woman who has never married.

A dowager is used to refer to a lady of the aristocracy whose husband has died. She only had the title by virtue of being married to the Lord/Duke/whatever. Once he died the title is passed to the first born son. Because this has happened she no longer has the right to be known as 'Lady So-and-so' - that is now her son's wife. Instead, she becomes 'The Dowager Lady So-and-so'.

Obviously this never occurs for a man, because once he's died the title passes to the son and if his wife dies it doesn't make any difference because titles pass down the male line.


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Re:A dowager is used to refer to a lady of the aristocracy whose husband has died. She only had the title by virtue of being married to the Lord/Duke/whatever. Once he died the title is passed to the first born son. Because this has happened she no longer has the right to be known as 'Lady So-and-so' - that is now her son's wife. Instead, she becomes 'The Dowager Lady So-and-so'.

Obviously this never occurs for a man, because once he's died the title passes to the son and if his wife dies it doesn't make any difference because titles pass down the male line.


Yes, well i guess its a good thing prince philip has a title in his own right... other wise he would be a dowager should QEII die before him.

the whole "passing thro the male line" thing is passe.

Dowagers true meaning might remain alive in England where it still has meaning, but in US, a any widow can be a dowager..

and as for term for old men, they do exist.. we are just less conscious of them.

in a society where a woman's prime function was seen as having children, (but a man was free to define himself) a woman who did not have children was a failure--and a word was used to define her --spinster..(an old woman still employeed doing a young womans work, because she never got down to her real work of raising children.)

a man could define himself as career, or as family man, or lord, etc.. (and yes, rich men had more options than poor..) as society has changed, "spinster" has been replaced by 'career woman'.. to signify a woman who chose options that didn't include children..

of course, language both leads and follows society, and spinster is still in use.


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