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BranShea #192522 08/15/10 01:37 AM
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Yes. Never actually seen the show. I heard the name dalziel pronounced differently from its spelling in the promos and thought of the p d james detective's name dalgliesh which I had thought was pronounced daalgleesh. I wondered whether I had got that pronunciation wrong. Deegleesh does not sound right. I thought the awad people'd know, but I can try and google "pronunciation dalgliesh".

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Originally Posted By: Jackie
Ooh! By that Ian guy...what's-his-name?


Dalziel and Pascoe are from Reginald Hill.. you may be thinking of Ian Rankin's Inspector Rebus?

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It definitely is pronounced dee-el. I've seen them all, because there is something charming (boorish charming) grin about this fat unattractive man. He and his assistant a sort of crude dry comical duo. There is a scene in which some not-of-the-region officer calls him Daalgleesh all the time, just to irritate him.

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Ian Rankin, yes; thank you. An okay writer.

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Thanks bran. The show has only just begun here. I'll watch it. (Google said daalgiesh was "dogleash"!!!).

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Originally Posted By: tsuwm
>cirque

Also called cwm - one of the two Welsh words I know, featuring w as a vowel.


I am reminded today of a third Welsh word in my dictionary:
hwyl -
/HU il/ Welsh an emotional quality which inspires and sustains impassioned eloquence; also, the fervor of emotion characteristic of Welsh gatherings

hwow! a 'wy' dipthong!?

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Okay--and hwyl demonstrate this for us?

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Originally Posted By: tsuwm

I am reminded today of a third Welsh word in my dictionary:
hwyl -
/HU il/ Welsh an emotional quality which inspires and sustains impassioned eloquence; also, the fervor of emotion characteristic of Welsh gatherings

hwow! a 'wy' dipthong!?


Looks like two distinct syllables to me.

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From: Praise of Summer / Mawl i'r Haf

And it is an eternal grief
by night or day, how nearly August comes,
and to know that you, golden abundance,
from the prolongued defection, would depart.
'Tell me summer - this is wrong -
and I would like to ask of you
to what region or what kingdom
or what country, by wise Peter, do you go?'


A drwg yw yn dragywydd
nesed Awst, ai nos ai dydd,
a gwybod o'r method maith,
euraid deml, yr aut ymaith.
'Manag ym, haf, mae'n gam hyn,
myfy a fedr d'ymofyn,
pa gyfair neu pa gyfoeth,
pa dir ydd ei, myn Pedr, ddoeth


[Dafydd ap Gwilym , (may have been born about 1320) ]
A friend once gave me the volume of selected poems

I always like, by comparison, to find at least some words that by their repetition or similarities become clear.

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Originally Posted By: Avy
(Google said daalgiesh was "dogleash"!!!).


That's how TV people pronounce Kenny Dalglish (famous Scottish football player & sometime football manager), although it could be that the English media have always been mispronouncing it - they tend to struggle with the nuances in Celtic names. Just as I struggle with Worcestershire sauce.

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