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#165458 01/25/07 10:01 PM
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Originally ending in ij, sometime in the 19thC the spelling was changed to a dotted y.

There is a difference between the Middle Welsh dotted y (with a single dot) and the Dutch ij ligature (and, for that matter the y with diaeresis. They're all in Unicode as separate glyphs.





What would it look like zmjezhd, a dotted y with a single dot? Where would it stand? left , right or in the middle? Could you show one?
And yes, the ij is totally Dutch: hij, zij, wij, jij, ijs, rijkelijk en klaarblijkelijk ------ he, she, we, you, ice, richly and evidently.

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Perhaps because it is quite literally "double v"?




In my Second Language, Rarotongan Maori, The 'W' was completly replaced with a 'V' just under 200 years ago. In 1821 LMS missionary John Williams came to Rarotonga with his Tahitian counterpart Papehia. They diligently set about translating the Bible into the Native Rarotongan Maori which is very similar in structure and content to Tahitian Maori. Rarotongan at this point was a completely oral language and the subtleties in the pronounciation of the 'V' versus the 'W' were written as the Tahitian 'V' and adopted orally by my ancestors. The W is still prevalent in the New Zealand Maori Dialect.
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Interesting. Although I've lived around among Raro speakers for the last two decades, and knew that most seem to enjoy Tahitian music, I did not know that the Tahitian language was also called Maori. I did nknow about vaka/waka, vaiine/wahine, and of course, anau/whanau etc. Oh, and the crime against cuisine which is puke. Meitaki it ain't!

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What would it look like, a dotted y with a single dot?

Look at U+1E8F on this chart. (That's the 9th column, last row.) It's centered over the y.


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Kia ora all,
Just interested to know whether it is only us kiwis who pronounce the acronym www (double U, double U, double U,) as, e.g, 'dubdubdub.wordsmith.org' I mentioned dub dub dub to someone from England the other night and they had no idea what I was on about.
Just curious.



Kia ora Oll.

Only now I looked at the initial post. I'm often watching BBC-TV and they're double U-ing all the time when they refer to programs you can re-vieuw on the Internet. I know it always irritates me a little : 'Come on , get it over with'. Maybe your friends don't watch BBC- TV ? (or are so used to it they don't notice it)

Thanks zmjezhd.

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Has nobody else heard people refer to the www as
woo-woo-woo ?

Most English folks I speak with with skip the www part and say "thingamajig.com" but I've heard several people name addresses as follows..."you can find it at woo-woo-woo thingamajig.com"

In French, people invariable say the double-v, double-v, double-v before the address. *

(W is called double-vee in French, not double-U)


*just getting back to the board. Toooo many posts to catch up on so if somebody has already mentioned the French double-vee thingy. Sorry, don't mean to be redundunt.

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Most browsers these days will find you your page without the www prefix being entered in the address field. That might could be the reason some folks don't bother saying it.

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Why is W the only multi syllable letter in the English alphabet?

"X" has three distinct *parts to its sound... (eh-k-s)


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Why is W the only multi syllable letter in the English alphabet? Mah goodness, it shore ain't, Honeychile--there's ay-uf, ay-ul, ee-um, ee-un, and ay-us, to name just a few. And I occasionally hear people say "are-uh". (That last one sounds strange even to me.)

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Has nobody else heard people refer to the www as
woo-woo-woo ?






I recently had an Italian "vuh-vuh-vuh" me, during a phone conversation in English, when he was giving me a web address. From the context, I understood perfectly what he meant. Apparently, "vuh" is (more or less) the name of "W" in Italian. Convenient, I say.

In Spanish it's four syllables thrice repeated ("uve doble uve doble uve doble"). Tongue-twisting and bo-ring. I wanna adopt "vuh-vuh-vuh"!

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