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Posted By: RhubarbCommando Home and Away - 12/12/00 09:29 AM
This is a plea for help from a very confused RhubarbCommando, whose leaves are gradually turning brown and whose stalk is withering (!)

I have recently acquired a bran new machine, which has been set up in my castle, in the turret room just above and to the left of the portcullis. The machine is connected to the telephonic system so thoughtfully invented by that nice Mr Bell. I can view AWAD, inter alia, and continue to derive much enjoyment from it.

Aye, but here's the rub. I cannot achieve a two-way communication with the board. Every time that I try to log in, using my accustomed password, the board refuses me entrance. How do other users who post from both home and work manage it?
Am I going to have to employ my immense vegetative skills as a Commando in order to force an entry? Perhaps, as in Bridge, I should try to force an entry with a spade? Maybe I should use my spades to form a bridge? As it is, I'm forked if I know what to do.

I have perfect confidence, however, that someone out there among my friends will know the answer.

with sorrow, your drooping, sugarless and custardless Rhub.

Posted By: wsieber Re: Home and Away - 12/12/00 09:37 AM
Hi RC,
My advice would be to use a second, different "handle" from your home, and log on afresh. The handle is certainly linked to the e-mail address, and if the two don't match, the system rejects you.

Posted By: shanks Re: Home and Away - 12/12/00 09:38 AM
Rhuby

The board uses cookies, which may be blocked by the security set-up of your computer at home. Check your security settings to ensure they accept cookies and try again. That's about as technical as I can get, I'm afraid, being more a literature than a hardware kinda guy.

Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: Home and Away - 12/12/00 09:49 AM
Rhuby,

I frequently log in from both home and work. I don't have my real email address as a "reply to", and I have cookies enabled on both machines. While I can't guarantee that either the email address or cookies are the problem, this may, I hope, help you.

CK

Posted By: RhubarbCommando Re: Home and Away - 12/12/00 10:00 AM
Many thanks, friends - I will see whether my machine will, indeed, accept a bun in her oven. If not, perhaps IVF treatment would be the answer?

Posted By: Faldage Re: Home and Away - 12/12/00 12:29 PM
Since I fully expect to be up and running at home some sweet day I will note all these comments, but:

sugarless and custardless Rhub

Who would want to pollute the wonderful flavo(u)r of rhubarb with (yuck!) sugar?

Posted By: RhubarbCommando Re: Home and Away - 12/12/00 02:50 PM
If the Rhubarb don't get a sweetner, the Commando may come and do you harm!


Posted By: maverick Re: Home and Away - 12/12/00 02:56 PM
a bran new machine

Poor Rhub - and you might have expected a more regular connection!

Posted By: RhubarbCommando Re: Home and Away - 12/12/00 03:48 PM
Perhaps not, in view of the cost I've incurred!

Posted By: maverick Re: Home and Away - 12/12/00 04:06 PM
cost I've

You'll be running up a big phone bill, though...

Posted By: RhubarbCommando Re: Home and Away - 12/12/00 04:28 PM
Better than running up and down the stairs all day.

Or skipping to the loo, me darlin'

Posted By: Max Quordlepleen Re: Home and Away - 12/12/00 05:16 PM
Rhubarb, I'm will put myself in CK's stead here and agree with him. I have successfully logged on to AWADTalk from several different PCs (when you need a fix, you need a fix), and as long as cookies were enabled, no problems. The fact that my profile includes a web-based, rather than POP3, email address, may be connected. If that is the case, try getting a free web-based email address from any one of the hundreds of providers out there, and then use that in your basic profile here. Bear in mind two salient caveats concerning this post: (a) I'm a gibbering loon, and (3) I'm a dead loon walking - as soon as Jackie decideds how she wants to carry out her promise, I shall be rather forcefully shunted off this mortal coil.

Posted By: Jackie Re: Home and Away - 12/12/00 05:32 PM
as soon as Jackie decideds how she wants to carry out her promise, I shall be rather forcefully shunted off this mortal coil.

'Member, Sweetie? I said I was going to hug you to death.
So, you can plan on twining away for some time longer, she said with twisted humor. (Ok, Marty, humour.)



Posted By: TEd Remington Re: Home and Away - 12/12/00 06:30 PM
>Rhubarb, I'm will put myself in CK's stead here and agree with him. I have successfully logged on to AWADTalk from several different PCs (when you need a fix, you need a fix), and as long as cookies were enabled, no problems. The fact that my profile includes a web-based, rather than POP3, email address, may be connected. If that is the case, try getting a free web-based email address from any one of the hundreds of providers out there, and then use that in your basic profile here. Bear in mind two salient caveats concerning this post: (a) I'm a gibbering loon, and (3) I'm a dead loon walking - as soon as Jackie decideds how she wants to carry out her promise, I shall be rather forcefully shunted off this mortal coil.

It is not your address. It is your cookie. I am able to log in from both home and work with no problems. I DID have to have my password the first time I logged in from work, but then my computer accepted a cookie from AWADTalk and everything was fine.

BTW, let us hope that Jackie shunts none of our esteemed (oh what was it -- ayleurs) off this mortal coil. Particularly Rhubarb. Can you imagine how unpopular I would become at the interment when I intoned lugubriously the threnody, "Aye, therein lies the Rhub?"

Posted By: belMarduk Re: Home and Away - 12/13/00 12:30 AM
Where is Mr. xara when you need him. Rhu, send a note off the xara, I remember her hubby being pretty up on all this stuff. I'm sure he'll be able to tell you how to fix it.

Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: Home and Away - 12/13/00 01:04 AM
TEd said (sorry, can't resist the rhyme): BTW, let us hope that Jackie shunts none of our esteemed (oh what was it -- ayleurs) off this mortal coil. Particularly Rhubarb. Can you imagine how unpopular I would become at the interment when I intoned lugubriously the threnody, "Aye, therein lies the Rhub?"

And remember that Jackie signed off elsewhere: carpe Quordlepleen. It should have been dative (Quordlepleeno), but let that pass.

I say that probably what she should be saying is Quordlepleen carpe. Much more threatening.

Rhub, it's the cookies, my dear. I managed to whack myself out of the list this morning by disabling them.

Posted By: RhubarbCommando Re: Home and Away - 12/13/00 09:11 AM
Further thanks to you all for public and private messages of help, support or both (remembering the furore caused by and/or - but that was in another chunter and, alas, the thread is dead.)

My big problem now is my total lack of knowledge of "cookies" and where to find them, how to enable them, etc. As I say, it is a new machine - indeed the first bran new machine I have ever owned, all previous having been passed to me by affluent friends and relatives who could afford new ones for themselves. My detailed knowledge of computers dates back to a time nearer to Babbidge than to Gates so the software, and how to deal with it, is still shrouded by the opacity of the veils of my ignorance.
(It is a measure of my anguish that I, the egoistic and bombastic vegetative storm-trooper, will admit to ignorance about anything!)

So - recipes for cookies and how to cook them, please.

Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: Baking Cookies - 12/13/00 04:42 PM
Rhub:

In Internet Explorer (or Netscape if you're using that), click on the "Help" menu item, click on "Contents and Index" and type "cookies" into the search term text box. In Explorer, the word "cookies" will be displayed and highlighted in the box below the search term box.

From this point, all the instructions are for Explorer - I don't have Netscape.

Double-click on the highlighted "cookies" item. This will tell you all about Microsoft's cookies, which are a damned sight less palatable than the ones mother used to make.

At the bottom, there will be link to "Set a security level". Click on that. Follow the instructions (and your nose).

If your security level is set too high, your browser refuses to accept cookies - and the board refused to talk to you unless you do. So you have to reduce the security level to medium so that the board and your browser can talk to each other ...

HTH


Posted By: TEd Remington Re: Home and Away - 12/13/00 07:46 PM
>TEd said (sorry, can't resist the rhyme):

"said" rhymes with deed in NZ????

Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: Home and Away - 12/13/00 08:36 PM
TEd seed?? "said" rhymes with deed in NZ????

No. It might in Oz. However, I assumed TEd was pronounced the same as Ted. Is that one more whoops in my life?

Posted By: of troy Re: Home and Away - 12/13/00 08:42 PM
I assumed TEd was pronounced the same as Ted.
me too! but i would never publicly-- ass-u-me.

are you Tee'd (off) or some sort of other tee'd?

Posted By: xara Re: Home and Away - 12/13/00 09:36 PM
>>>Where is Mr. xara when you need him. Rhu, send a note off the xara, I remember her hubby being pretty up on all this stuff. I'm sure he'll be able to tell you how to fix it. <<<

What, what? Is someone speaking to me? Sorry, I've only been keeping up on a somewhat intermittent basis lately. Holiday hub-bub, you know.

My take on the situation has for the most part been expressed. Check the cookies. The only other thing I have to add that hasn't already been expressed by our esteemed colleagues involves insight as to how to change the setting of your cookies in Netscape. You could click on Edit. Choose Preferences. Next, go to Advanced. There you will find 3 settings for your level of cookies: None, Some, and All. (of course, all worded more wordily) I accept some cookies, and my Netscape works just fine. You can also choose to be warned before accepting a cookie. I tried that with this board, and I had to click OK about 20 times before I was able to read a post. Needless to say, I turned that off promptly!


If you ask Mr. xara, he will tell you that he needs more information before he can contribute. Then after he asks Rhu about 50 questions, he'll give you some extremely complicated and cryptic answer that translates to just what everyone else is saying about cookies. If you don't get it working, send me a note, and I'll see whether I'm correct about his response.

Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: Home and Away - 12/13/00 09:47 PM
... And to add to xara's comments. I had one of our in-house nerds track cookies on my machine while I was on the board at work the other day - in a ten minute session with three posts, about 200 were accepted. Since our computers (with Windoze OS) only keep 250 at any given moment, I would imagine the "Invalid Server" HTTP message has just a teensy-weensy chance of being connected with cookie exchange ...

Posted By: TEd Remington Re: Home and Away - 12/14/00 02:17 AM
>However, I assumed TEd was pronounced the same as Ted

CK

You assumed correctly. I apologize. It is almost impossible for me to resist pulling a leg when it's dangled so enticingly in front of me. It certainly is Ted to rhyme with zed. The TEd came about when I fatfingered my name when I was registering here. And if I re-register without the upper case E I would lose my credits and have to start over as a stranger.

Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: Home and Away - 12/14/00 03:53 AM
Helen of Troy, whose spate launched a thousand drips, said:

I assumed TEd was pronounced the same as Ted.
me too! but i would never publicly-- ass-u-me.

are you Tee'd (off) or some sort of other tee'd?


I'm allowed to assume, HOT. Nay, I'm expected to make assumptions. I'm an economist! And that's me to a "T"—ass-u-me or not ...

Posted By: Bobyoungbalt Re: Home and Away - 12/14/00 04:04 PM
In reply to:

carpe ... should have been dative


No, Cap, we'll not let that pass. In the famous phrase carpe diem, diem is in the accusative case, as you would expect the direct object of a verb to be. There are few Latin verbs which "take" the dative; actually more which take the ablative. You owe Jackie an apology.

Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: Home and Away - 12/14/00 04:59 PM
Bob said No, Cap, we'll not let that pass. In the famous phrase carpe diem, diem is in the accusative case, as you would expect the direct object of a verb to be. There are few Latin verbs which "take" the dative; actually more which take the ablative. You owe Jackie an apology.

Well, I can't argue - it's now some thirty-one years since I studied Latin formally. Sorry Jackie. And I can't remember how to decline "die" - can't remember which form it takes, so I wouldn't dare, although perhaps I should have guessed that it was objective.

Quordlepleen, carpe! okay, is it?

Posted By: TEd Remington I remember MY Latin - 12/14/00 06:39 PM
>And I can't remember how to decline "die"

Ill, sick, dead

Posted By: tsuwm Re: I remember MY Latin - 12/14/00 06:44 PM
>>And I can't remember how to decline "die"

no, thank's all the same, Mr. Reaper...

Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: I remember MY Latin - 12/14/00 09:10 PM
tsuwm (one of two, very badly misspelt), opined: >>And I can't remember how to decline "die"

no, thank's all the same, Mr. Reaper...


Oh, I accept new undertakings all the time ...

Posted By: TEd Remington Re: I remember MY Latin - 12/15/00 12:30 PM
> Oh, I accept new undertakings all the time ...

It's easy to be obsequy-ous in the wake of that one.

Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: I remember MY Latin - 12/15/00 05:32 PM
TEd seed: It's easy to be obsequy-ous in the wake of that one.

Ouch! I'll find it easy to hold a wake after your obsequies any time. Very punny.

Posted By: RhubarbCommando Re: Home and Away - 12/18/00 01:01 PM
Once again, many thanks to you all.
At time of writing, I haven't had a chance to try out your suggestions as I've been away for a few days.

I will see what sort of a Pickles I can get into when I " 'ave a go" this evening. Watch this space for progress reports!

Posted By: RhubarbCommando Re: Home and Away - 12/18/00 08:45 PM
Hurrah! Success!

Now you get me at home and away!

All praise to my friends who have helped me get here!!

Many thanks to you all.

One v.happy Rhub.

Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: Home and Away - 12/19/00 07:57 PM
Quordlepleen, carpe! okay, is it?

Like it, do I. A touch of anastrophe it has.

Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: Home and Away - 12/19/00 08:01 PM
'Ere ya go, Commando!
Now click the heels of your rhuby slippers three times and intone, "There's no place like home... there's no place like home..."

Posted By: RhubarbCommando Re: Home and Away - 12/20/00 04:02 PM
click the heels of your rhuby slippers three times etc
I will when I get them, Anna. I've been delayed on account of being hard of hearing - I've been following a yellow, sick toad.


Posted By: Jackie Re: Home and Away - 12/20/00 04:51 PM
Now click the heels of your rhuby slippers three times and intone, "There's no place like home
Anna, that was great!
And if Rhuby's been following a yellow sick toad, he's probably not a mellow yellow fellow just now. (Apologies to Donovan Leach.) Especially if he ate the toad.

Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: Home and Away - 12/21/00 01:48 AM
Jackie said to Anna: And if Rhuby's been following a yellow sick toad, he's probably not a mellow yellow fellow just now. (Apologies to Donovan Leach.) Especially if he ate the toad.

Did you ever see The Secret Policeman's Other Ball? A British comedy musical type show. Donovan shows up on stage, sits down and is about to begin singing when someone in the audience yells out "I thought you were dead!".

Donovan considers that for a moment, appears to be going to say something portenteous, then replies "Not yet !".

Maybe the guy in the audience saw him eat a toad?

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