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Posted By: Capital Kiwi Travels - 04/24/01 08:23 PM
I was going to send this message to a number of you privately since it really has nothing directly to do with AWADTalk, but when I realised the number I'd have to PM, I decided to risk the Wrath of AnnaS and do it here.

Sandra and I have sold the house, handed in our notices and are making plans for our move to the UK. Some of you will know that this includes an intended extended tour across the US. We will endeavour to visit as many of those of you who have made the mistake of thinking that meeting me/us will somehow enhance your lives as we can.

We will probably cross the water to the US in mid-June. I'll post a fuller itinerary to Max's i-Drive when we know what we're doing. There's gotta be a first time for everything.

Thank your for your anticipated forbearance for the abuse of this forum!

Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: Travels - 04/24/01 09:24 PM
wrath, schmath. Good luck and Godspeed.

The grits are a-bubblin' on the stove. Keep us posted.

p.s. Don't schlep over to the wilds of Minnesota wihout a reconnoiter with me, first. Roger, 10-4

Posted By: Max Quordlepleen - 04/24/01 10:31 PM
Posted By: RhubarbCommando Re: Travels - 04/25/01 08:23 AM
Well, CK, may I offer you warm greetings from the old country, and hope that you will settle happily among us, when you finally arrive. Let it be said straight away that any help that I can offer you, is yours for the asking.
I'm looking forward to welcomming you at some point.

Just don't get subverted by the sirens of Yankeeland before you've tried the delights of Olde Englande!

Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: Travels - 04/25/01 10:35 AM
Ma Atua koutou e manaaki, e tiaki, i nga wa katoa.

Thanks Max, I appreciate the sentiment even if I couldn't fully understand the verse. As for your comments on the aptness of my handle, Capital will apply regardless. Provided that you are prepared to swallow one of its other definitions, to wit, "excellent".

And you should remember that whata ngarongaro he tangata, toitu he Aotearoa.

Posted By: Sparteye Re: Travels - 04/25/01 02:18 PM
Happy packing, CK and SWMBO. I await with great anticipation the posting of your itinerary and your periodic (and profuse, I hope) updates on your adventures. I know that your itinerary will include a swing through lower Michigan, won't it?!?!?!

Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: Travels - 04/25/01 05:52 PM
I know that your itinerary will include a swing through lower Michigan, won't it?!?!?!

We're keeping the actual route top secret so that the forces of darkness won't be able to anticipate our every move*, but I don't doubt that southern Michigan will be in there somewhere**



* We haven't planned our actual route yet

** It's between LA and Chicago following "66" as was ...


Posted By: Max Quordlepleen - 04/25/01 07:08 PM


Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: Travels - 04/26/01 03:56 AM
Seeing that proverb inverted from its regular order suggests one of two things: (a) You're standing on your head to acclimatise to life at the bottom of the world or (3), it was a subtle clue that anastrophe figures on your route.

Blame P.M. Ryan, not me. I rather liked it the first time I saw it. Should toitu he Aotearoa come before ngarongaro he tangata? e.g. NZ remains although people disappear? Bloody typical! Although what of, I'm not sure.

Posted By: Max Quordlepleen - 04/26/01 04:08 AM


Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: Travels - 05/31/01 10:36 AM
Just leaping in to tell you all that we're off, and that you can track what we're up to, with my own slant on things, of course, at:

http://www.bacchus-marsh.com/

Posted By: Sparteye Re: Travels - 05/31/01 12:10 PM
Bon voyage, CapK and SWMBO. See you on the flip side of the Pacific. [waving wistfully emoticon]

Posted By: musick Re: Travels - 06/01/01 06:20 PM
Not to make this too... personal but, do we owe congrats to the "newlywed's"... or have I read the faqs imbedded in the ...marsh incorrectly?

Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: Travels - 06/01/01 07:03 PM
Not to make this too... personal but, do we owe congrats to the "newlywed's"... or have I read the faqs imbedded in the ...marsh incorrectly?


Oops, I meant to take that page down, but didn't. Nope, we got married 18 months ago. Purely business.

Posted By: nancyk Re: Travels - 06/01/01 07:16 PM
we got married 18 months ago. Purely business.


Then congratulations on your business acumen!


Posted By: Jackie Re: Travels - 06/01/01 08:41 PM
Then congratulations on your business acumen!
Business is acumen' in...are they coo-coo?

Posted By: jimthedog Re: Travels - 06/01/01 08:48 PM
Stopping off in New York at all?

jimthedog
Posted By: wow Re: Travels - 06/02/01 03:50 PM
Dear CapK : Hope you will continue to post on this thread as you travel as some of the more illiterate among us (me, I mean) have trouble getting in to see Max's idrive ... and figuring it out!
D'uuuhhhh.
Have a great trip! See you on the flip side!


Posted By: Jackie Re: Travels - 06/02/01 04:14 PM
wow, you don't have to go to the i-drive: just click on the link that CK posted on Thu May 31 06:36:06. And I am NOT going to confess that I thought the stories would be on the first page it opens to!

Posted By: jimthedog Re: Travels - 06/02/01 05:11 PM
whata ngarongaro he tangata, toitu he Aotearoa.
What does it mean?

jimthedog
Posted By: Max Quordlepleen - 06/03/01 05:00 AM
Posted By: Bingley Re: Travels - 06/03/01 01:52 PM
In reply to:

And I am NOT going to confess that I thought the stories would be on the first page it opens to!


In that case, I'm not going to confess that I sat there for five minutes waiting for photos to appear.

Bingley

Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: Travels - 06/04/01 09:45 AM
Hi all, just leapt in here to tell you that part 3 is now posted to http://www.bacchus-marsh.com. No photos yet, but I'll insert them post-hoc as appropriate once I get some in digital format.

CLICK ON THE LINKS ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE OF THE PAGE TO SEE THE STORIES.

Sorry, don't have time (someone else's Internet connection) to poke around. But the number of posts mounting up is frightening.

Hope you're all enjoying the drivel, anyhow. I keep myself amused while driving thinking about what I'm going to say next. Then surprise myself anyhow.

Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: Travels - 06/07/01 07:31 PM
And number 5 has just been posted, folks!

Posted By: Faldage Re: #6, In which we discover that our hero - 06/12/01 12:01 PM
doesn't really consider South to be up!
http://www.bacchus-marsh.com/Files/Part 6.htm

Posted By: wow Re: #6, In which we discover that our hero - 06/12/01 02:18 PM
Link won't display ... site down?

Posted By: Faldage Re: #6???? - 06/12/01 02:21 PM
Dunno, wow. Works for me.

Posted By: wow Re: #6???? - 06/12/01 02:29 PM
Hmmmmmmm! Thanks Faldage, I will just keep trying ... those guys trying to perfect Artificial Intelligence should work with my computer! Sometimes it just has a mind of its own !!

Posted By: Capital Kiwi We're Up to No. 9 - 06/17/01 05:19 AM
Hi all,

Hope not too many people are not able to read it. Wow, I suggest you try using MS Explorer (if you aren't already). I can't really afford the resources to control for Nutscrape's built-in problems, I have enough difficulties with IE5 ...

There are now PICCIES in some of the pages and there will be more when I learn to drive properly on the wrong side of the road.

Cheers all!

Posted By: Max Quordlepleen - 06/17/01 07:18 AM
Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: We're Up to No. 9 - 06/18/01 06:04 AM
Max, you're both right and wrong. "Edinburgh" is the "Town of Edin". It was once called "Dunedin", but it means "Edin under the hill or below" (approximately, I'm no Gaelic expert), but it's not exactly the same thing. "Edin under the hill" transliterated as "Edinburgh of the South" isn't so far away.

And I still haven't learned to drive wrongly on the right. Did I get that right? Or left? Or just wrong?

Posted By: Faldage Re: We're Up to No. 9 - 06/18/01 12:10 PM
Macfarlane's Dictionary (http://www.ceantar.org/Dicts/MF2/ lists:

dn
nm. g.v. din; pl. din, heap, mount, mound, fortress, fortification


which sounds like a pretty good translation of the Sassenach burgh

Posted By: Max Quordlepleen - 06/21/01 12:38 AM


Posted By: Faldage Re: Lala Land - 06/21/01 10:58 AM
On the Sunday we braved the public transport system

You've now done something that probably 99.44% of LA residents have never ever done. Most of them have probably never even thought it was possible.


Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: Lala Land - 06/21/01 01:25 PM
You've now done something that probably 99.44% of LA residents have never ever done. Most of them have probably never even thought it was possible.

You must be exaggerating, at least a little bit. LA has a fairly extensive public transport system, and it's heavily used. Also we found that people were very friendly and helpful when we got confused about which bus or train to catch. Kudos to LA - I never thought I'd leave it having liked being there!

Posted By: maverick Re: Lala Land - 06/21/01 01:50 PM
Thanks for keeping going with the virtual postcards, CK - it's fun. Happy travelling.

Posted By: rodward Re: Lala Land - 06/21/01 02:44 PM
Yeah CK, these are great. Now we know who has been ghost-writing all of Bryson's travelogues all along!

Rod

Posted By: Bobyoungbalt Re: Lala Land - 06/21/01 03:21 PM
In reply to:

Well, it has a McDonalds, but I'm sure that Hell has one of those.


My nomination for quip of the year.

Actually, my idea of Hell is that there is only one place to eat, the (one) McDonalds. [See the chapter in Portrait of the Artist as a Young Man where the retreat leader gives a detailed description of Hell.]

Posted By: Capital Kiwi My Just Deserts ... - 06/26/01 04:53 AM
Parts 11 and 12 were uploaded tonight. Sorry for the delay or the uploading, depending on your point of view.

I'm stymied from time to time by the presence or absence of Prodigy local access numbers. Why would Barstow have two while Albuquerque only has one? In fact, all of New Mexico only has one. Woe, woe!

Posted By: Jazzoctopus Re: My Just Deserts ... - 06/26/01 03:47 PM
Prodigy

I'm not surprised there aren't that many numbers. I thought that company already died in the US.

Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: My Just Deserts ... - 06/26/01 11:09 PM
just deserts..... hehehe

Whatever happens, don't pull a Thelma & Louise on us, please!

Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: My Just Deserts ... - 06/27/01 02:46 PM
Part the thirteenth is now available ...

Posted By: Capital Kiwi Gettin' Kicked Over on Route 66 - 07/03/01 04:32 AM
...and Part 14.

Posted By: Fiberbabe 24 Hours in Tulsa - 07/06/01 02:09 PM
I'll do our Kiwi friend a favor and let y'all know that I found Part 15 posted. Do check out his map link at the top too - quite impressive!

Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: Travels - 07/09/01 03:40 AM
What does it mean?

It means read the previous posts, old son.

PART THE SIXTEENTH is now available for your rancour.

Jackie is leaning over my shoulder as I type this. Yep, folks, finally made it to Looah'ville!

Cheers

Posted By: Jackie Re: Travels - 07/14/01 08:23 PM
From Bacchus-Marsh:
Thank you for that, Jackie. Very much.
You're more than welcome, Sweetie. No one could ask for more conscientious, considerate, courteous, helpful,
and appreciative guests than you-all were. Thank you for the honor. It was a total lark from beginning to end.
Enjoy the rest of your trip, and be careful.


Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: Travels - 07/16/01 02:29 AM


And Part 17 is now up for your consideration ...

Posted By: Faldage Re: Yoopers - 07/18/01 01:34 PM
I'm glad to see you've returned the Yoopers' homeland to them, but what, pray tell, have you done with Lake Superior, my dear CapK?

Posted By: Sparteye My Ain Countree - 07/18/01 03:59 PM
WOOOHOOOO! Annland has made the map! Thanks, CapK.

Posted By: musick Protection Racket - 07/18/01 05:34 PM
This latest installment floors me... not 'cause I had anything to do with it... but that the "international" impressionists that make Chicago a gangster town could really use some help, as they have been slacking off lately.

Posted By: BeingCJ Re: Protection Racket - 07/19/01 06:09 PM
Capt K
Thanks for the chronicles I've been printing them to bring home for Dad & my girls to read. It's been great fun the girls read them out loud, then I have to explain why I'm laughing.

CJ
Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: Yoopers - 07/20/01 02:00 AM
I'm glad to see you've returned the Yoopers' homeland to them, but what, pray tell, have you done with Lake Superior, my dear CapK?

When the US invades Canada and adds the north shore of Superior to its dominions as the 51st state, I will be the very first to include the north shore of Superior into the map of the US.

Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: Protection Racket - 07/20/01 02:02 AM
CJ, the nineteeth instalment should be available to you by midnight EST.

CapK

Posted By: tsuwm Re: Yoopers - 07/20/01 04:32 AM
When the US invades Canada and adds the north shore of Superior to its dominions as the 51st state, I will be the very first to include the north shore of Superior into the map of the US.

all these years we've been going to the "North Shore" to escape the summer heat in Minneapolis, and now I learn I should have been looking out for immigration officials?!
actually, it was the 4th of July celebrations in Grand Marais that really threw me off....

Posted By: Faldage Re: Yoopers - 07/20/01 12:03 PM
include the north shore of Superior into the map of the US

There's an old geography trivia question: What pairs of states are adjacent both geographically and alphabetically? Technically one of the answers should be Michigan and Minnesota, but I wouldn't advise trying to drive it; Lake Superior can be awfully deep and awfully cold.

Posted By: rodward Re: Yoopers - 07/20/01 12:24 PM
Michigan and Minnesota, but I wouldn't advise trying to drive it

I have just been planning a trip to the Isle of Wight (Proms at Osborne House, tomorrow evening so we are spending the whole day there) and while trying to find a particular attraction on the Internet map, asked for driving instructions from my house in Portsmouth. It directs me precisely to the Isle of Wight ferry terminal in Portsmouth, without calling it such, and then says "take the unnamed road for 6 miles to Ryde!".
Which reminds me of the Autoroute CD which provided up to 4 alternate routes for journeys. The 4th alternative for Portsmouth to Warwick involved taking one ferry across to the Isle of Wight from Portsmouth and one back to Southampton, replacing 30 miles of motorway by two ferries and 30 miles of local roads! Since the ferry ride to the Isle of Wight is generally reckoned as one of the most expensive per mile in the world , I never did try that.

Rod

Posted By: tsuwm Re: the north shore - 07/20/01 01:12 PM
I don't know if http://mapquest.com has ever gotten a mention, but.
michigan doesn't quite get any north shore -- click on "big map" and "zoom out".

okay, wow, I removed that wide link just for you -- the whole point of which was to show that there are 120+ american miles of the north shore of lake superior inside the great state (not province) of minnesota.

well, that's very wide -- I'll remove it later....

Posted By: of troy Re: the great lakes (HOMES) - 07/20/01 01:48 PM
The US EPA has a number of GIS maps and satelite images-- many that are downloadable.

http://www.great-lakes.net/gis/maps/ most are not as clear on state divisions as the map quest but it has a great collection of maps..and images..

Posted By: wow Re: W-I-D-E to the Nth degree - 07/21/01 03:01 PM
What happened?
It seems to have a mind of its own, this Post space .
WIDE makes me dizzy. Goodby!

Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: W-I-D-E to the Nth degree - 07/21/01 05:31 PM
wow,

Two posts above yours tsuwm posted a very long URL. That is what widened the screen. He said he'd come back to fix it later.

Your faithful translator,
ASp

Posted By: wow Re: Long links & wide - 07/22/01 02:42 PM
okay, wow, I removed that wide link just for you

Oh, tsuwm, you dear man. Thank you for the change. And AnnaS for your note. The change did make everything go back to usual width again.
What I do not understand is how a post in the middle of a "page" can affect the posts before it, too!
One of AWAD's little mysteries!
Thank you again, tsuwm, for your consideration.
And my apologies to everyone now wondering what happened to tsuwm's nifty link.

Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: Long links & wide - 07/22/01 02:56 PM
wow,

The page widens to accomodate the link. Therefore all posts above and below will be widened accordingly. I don't know of any way to architect ahem a web page so that it widens only on the specific post. Think newspaper columns and you'll understand

Oh. And tsuwm's nifty link is still there. Just narrower

Posted By: Bingley Re: Yoopers - 07/23/01 07:05 AM
Somebody sent me a site showing the distance between the US and Jakarta. It did include a link for driving directions but not being able to drive anyway I didn't bother to LIU.

Bingley
Posted By: Max Quordlepleen - 07/23/01 07:36 AM



Posted By: Bingley Re: Yoopers - 07/23/01 08:16 AM
Would it not also need a ferry between Kamchatka, the Aleutians, and Alaska?

Bingley
Posted By: Max Quordlepleen - 07/23/01 08:44 AM
Posted By: Jackie Re: Yoopers - 07/23/01 10:35 AM
C'mon, you guys! All you'd need to do, Bingley, is drive onto the long-distance ferry, and come right on over.
Though you do have to transfer after being put ashore on
Australia and then driving over the bridge to New Zealand,
right, CapK?

Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: Yoopers - 07/23/01 01:47 PM
Of course. Driving to the US is entirely possible. What am I saying?

Anyway, the next instalment of our ongoing saga has now been chiselled in runes on the Internet wall. You have 2,000 years to read it before wind and the other effluxions of time remove it from sight ...

Posted By: Bingley Re: Yoopers - 07/24/01 04:27 AM
Max, dear, I came to the tropics because the English winter was too much for me. A "hard enough" winter in the Aleutians does not bear thinking of.

Bingley
Posted By: wordcrazy Re: Yoopers - 07/25/01 01:13 AM
Capital Kiwi>>>>
You have 2,000 years to read it before wind and the other effluxions of time remove it from sight ...

2,000 years? Really?
My first grandchild just came into our life 3 days ago and I only have eyes for her right now, so I hope I have that much time to catch up with your superb travel journals.
This is really good news. Then I will be able to reread the complete series in some future time. Maybe when I get off this "graniness" wagon.
Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: Yoopers - 07/26/01 03:37 AM
Well, WC, congratulations on your state of granniness. I'm told that it's the same every time, but I can't speak from experience. Enjoy!

Posted By: Capital Kiwi Part 21 ... - 07/27/01 08:32 PM
... is now up for your perusal ...

Posted By: rodward Re: Part 21 ... - 07/31/01 09:48 AM
CK, I am still enjoying your travelogues immensely. A colleague just passed me a link you might enjoy:
http://dharmabum90.homestead.com/quotes.html
Take care.
Rod

Posted By: wow Re: Part 21 ... Kiwi Travels - 07/31/01 01:14 PM
RodW : that is a neat link. Wasted (?) a fun half hour there.
Cap K should have several pithy sayings to contribute!

Posted By: Faldage Re: Annland - 07/31/01 02:08 PM
Are residents of Annland called Annlanders?

Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: Annland - 08/04/01 02:54 AM
Are residents of Annland called Annlanders?

Yes, and in exactly the same way as residents of Lapland are called Lapdancers ...

Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: Part 21 ... Kiwi Travels - 08/04/01 03:01 AM
RodW : that is a neat link. Wasted (?) a fun half hour there.
Cap K should have several pithy sayings to contribute!


And I would, if I had time, which I don't. We're tourists, not travellers, make no mistake about it. On this trip we have had five dates about which we had to be very clear over a period of two months. That's four too many for a real traveller.

Anyone can sleep in a car on an interstate. It takes real style to be able to sleep on Skyline Drive in the Shenandoah Valley.

Yuppie tourists like us have a slightly different set of skills.
We need to be able to identify a possible motel location, sight unseen, in a town we've never been to before we get there by correlating the addresses of known motels.

We need to be able to identify business loops by deduction on a 4 x 4 inset map of a city.

We're able to deduce the amount of activity in a town by the number of cars parked outside the local Super 8 motel and thereby determine what kind of room rate we can negotiate.

And on, and on.

Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: Parts 22 and 23 - 08/04/01 03:03 AM
are now available. Map is updated. Watch the home page for an exciting new development soon.

Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: Part 24 is now up! - 08/06/01 02:50 AM
and running ...

Posted By: wordcrazy Re: Part 21 ... Kiwi Travels - 08/07/01 02:38 AM
We're tourists, not travellers

I know tourists, and Capital Kiwi, you're no tourist.
Tourists don't write fantastic journals, they usually just write "Wish you were here" on a skimpy postcard and go on their merry way.

Posted By: Capital Kiwi A Special Treat - 08/07/01 04:20 AM
Have a look at the web site. I've added an email from a friend of Sandra's who has just spent three months in New York. Her views of the Big Apple are an absolute riot.

Laugh and enjoy!

Posted By: Capital Kiwi Washington ..... ! - 08/08/01 11:09 AM
Hmmm.

Posted By: wordcrazy Re: Travels - 08/12/01 10:05 PM
I was going to send this message to a number of you privately since it really has nothing directly to do with AWADTalk, but when I realised the number I'd have to PM, I decided to risk the Wrath of AnnaS and do it here

I just finished the Washington, D.C. installment and I must warn you--there is a groupie in the making!

You picked a hot day to visit but I can see it has not fried the wordy part of your brain...still wonderful, still evocative images!
So I thank my lucky star that on that momentous day Tuesday, April 24 16:23:19 2001 you decided to risk life and limb to share your travel journals with us.
May the god of travel keep a very good eye on you and protect you from all travelling harm

Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: Travels - The Latest is Up - 08/13/01 11:33 PM
Thanks WC for the kind words. And, as a special bonus, I've just put the third last instalment up. More in about 48 hours ...

Posted By: maverick Re: Travels - The Latest is Up - 08/14/01 03:42 PM
an IMAX film about flight in the theatre at the museum .... got motion sickness. I rather dislike paying to be made ill (except when Im buying beer, of course), and we are now firmly of the opinion that IMAX is not all its cracked up to be. They throw up huge format movies on the screen and the audience throws up pop corn on the floor.
http://www.bacchus-marsh.com/Files/Part 26.htm

I know what you mean, CK but I therefore suggest you avoid Frances leading tourist attraction Futuroscope like the plague!

A single IMAX is to a dinghy on a millpond like Futuroscope is to a cruise ship going over Niagara. For anyone else, I can warmly recommend it the combined display of pyrotechnics, lasers and cinema over shallow pools of water at the end of the evening is stunning! It also cleverly manages to tie together all the elements of light and dark, image and imagination, and truth and illusion you will have experienced throughout the day.

But the foods still a ripoff!

Posted By: Capital Kiwi Part 27 is now Up - 08/21/01 09:42 PM
The second last installment of the Travels is now up for your perusal, folks. I'm workin' on No. 28.

And did those feet, in ancient times, walk upon ... naw, hang on, jeez!

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