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Posted By: maverick Wanu take a look at this? - 02/08/05 12:22 PM
http://www.zompist.com/indianwd.html

Posted By: Jackie Re: Wanu take a look at this? - 02/08/05 02:51 PM
Is your title saying the site is full of s**t?

Posted By: maverick Re: Wanu take a look at this? - 02/08/05 11:42 PM
nah, I just figgered to get all y'all digging... ;)

Posted By: plutarch Re: Wanu take a look at this? - 02/09/05 02:20 PM
lagniappe - Quechua yapay 'add, addition'

This is a very handy word I recognized from your source, Maverick. Never knew where it came from before.* "high muckamuck" [Chinook hiu muckamuck] is another great one!

from Dr. Bill [wwh]:

Maverick's long list of Indian words is tantalizing in that I once knew many of them. For instance, I knew axolotl was an amphibian that we dissected in Comparative Anatomy. Think it was called 'mudpuppy'. I'll bet few members know where those native American groups [in Maverick's source] were located.

* M-W traces the source to french/spanish but perhaps "la napa" derives from "Quechua yapay", a custom practised by aboriginal peoples in regions of the Americas conquered by the Spanish.

Main Entry: [bla·gniappe
Pronunciation: 'lan-"yap, lan-'
Function: noun
Etymology: American French, from American Spanish la ñapa the lagniappe
: a small gift given a customer by a merchant at the time of a purchase; broadly : something given or obtained gratuitously or by way of good measure



Posted By: Jackie Re: Wanu take a look at this? - 02/09/05 05:01 PM
For most of them I at least have a guess:

Costanoan--Costa Rica?
Nahuatl--Mexico?
Guarani--South America?
Quechua--Mexico or Central America?
Eskimo--yep
Carib--too easy, unless I have been deceived
Choctaw--um...midwest U.S.?
Arawak--no idea unless it's Alaska
Tupi--no idea
Algonquian--northeast U.S. and into Canada, although this actually came to be the
"umbrella name" under which several tribes united

Taino--no idea
Quechua--no idea but puts me in mind of Quebec
Aztec--Mexico
Aymara--no idea
Catawba--no idea
Maya--South America--Peru?
Salish--no idea
Araucanian--no idea
Miskito--no idea (I'm beginning to think I'm going to have
to retract my opening statement.)

Ojibwa--midwest/western U.S. ...I think
Chinook--way northern North America...west
Navajo--Mew Mexico area
Dakota--too easy
Hopi--next to the Navajos
Natick--no idea
Powhatan--augh, I should know this! Eastern U.S. ...?
Aleut--way northern North America
Cree--midwest U.S.
Nootka--no idea but sounds way northern
Narraganset--too easy
Pima--SW U.S.
Halkomelem--no idea
Munsee--never heard of this one or the one above
Massachuset--too easy
Muskogean--sort of northern-eastern midwest U.S.
Galibi--never heard of them, either
Micmac--Michigan?
Shawnee--northwestern midwest--came to be pretty fierce
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At least was interesting (as opposed to the above):Could uh-uh and uh-unh come from Cherokee? They're Americanisms, and the former at least recalls the Cherokee negative, a nasalized high vowel. On the other hand, some have claimed an African origin for these expressions. And on the third hand-- you need a lot of hands in philology-- nasals with negatives and central vowels are suspiciously common across the world (like "mama" or "papa"), and are thus hard to attribute to borrowing.

Posted By: tsuwm Re: Wanu take a look at this? - 02/09/05 07:11 PM
another wide page, plutarch, this time from the M-W paste. did you use the preformatted markup, or did this font change come along with the cut-n-paste?

Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: Wanu take a look at this? - 02/09/05 07:23 PM
Quechua--Mexico or Central America?

Quechua--no idea but puts me in mind of Quebec



Jackie, the Hogwash® thread is up there ^ in W&F [duck]

Posted By: plutarch Re: Wanu take a look at this? - 02/09/05 08:02 PM
did this font change come along with the cut-n-paste?

It came along with the cut-n-paste. Now there is no link at all.

Didn't know there is a "preformatted markup" [whatever that is]. I have tried Maverick's suggestion of splitting the url on another line, but that seems to break the link most of the time.

Posted By: tsuwm Re: Wanu take a look at this? - 02/09/05 08:11 PM
>Didn't know there is a "preformatted markup"

that's using the "pre" markup so that you can do stuff                like this.
for
some
reason
it
changes fonts well
^
as

the better solution to the long-link problem seems to be to
use snipurl.com or tinyurl.com. they're really very easy to use.

Posted By: maverick Re: Wanu take a look at this? - 02/10/05 12:08 AM
http://samplelonglinkthatgoesonandonandononandonandononand
oandononandonandononandonandononandonandonallacrossthebloodypageifyouletit.com


edit: hm, well, it seems to function as I'd expect (given this example was non-functional to start with!) However, you could always try a soft carriage return or line break: hold down the <shift> key while you hit the <enter> key

Posted By: of troy Re: Wanu take a look at this? - 02/10/05 12:15 AM
4 -just 4 pages of paper.. 2 if you double side them, and not much to read if you are too cheap to spare 4 sheet of paper..

READ the FAQ and learn how things work--print them and reas as you are waiting for pages to load..

there is a link right on top of page --just over from check private.

PRE is not a secret. not everyone has a 48 inch monitor. wide pages are real pain in the ass.

you can go back and ADD Carriage returns (ie, hit enter) on long lines, and break the text up into managable lengths.

Posted By: of troy Re: Wanu take a look at this? - 02/10/05 12:18 AM
Arawak--no idea unless it's Alaska


nope! another one of the tribes of the caribian... (not sure exactly which islands had caribs, and which had arawaks.. they didn't get along..

Posted By: Jackie Re: Wanu take a look at this? - 02/10/05 02:11 AM
AnnaS., I have 653 new posts in W & F; dunno when I'll get up the nerve to get back there.

Helen, what's an arawak, please?
Edit--just re-read your post; I should have also asked what are caribs?

Posted By: Faldage Re: Wanu take a look at this? - 02/10/05 11:21 AM
function as I'd expect

Well, if you expected it to cause the machine to hang, requiring a reboot, I'd say it was a resounding success.

Posted By: maverick Re: Wanu take a look at this? - 02/10/05 01:34 PM
Sorry, Fong - I'd tested it but of course only on an industry standard PC ;)

Posted By: of troy Re: Wanu take a look at this? - 02/10/05 04:16 PM
Carib--too easy, unless I have been deceived
...
Arawak--no idea unless it's Alaska

Tupi--no idea
.........
Catawba--no idea
..............
Salish--no idea


carib and arawak are tribes of the caribean.. not sure which lived on which islands or if there lands overlapped, but you were right with carib.

tupi- (WAG) is eastern US coast (thinking of 'tupilo'-- several native trees carry tupilo as part of there name.. and making a WAG based on that.

Catawba--an other WAG, north eastern US --anywhere from deleware to canada but i don't know a specific area.
--there are native grapes with this name that are grown in NYS. so maybe the finger lakes area.

salish-- one of the Pacific north west groups. (anywhere from northern california to alaskan panhandle..i don't know specificly where, but somewhere there)



Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: Wanu take a look at this? - 02/10/05 04:30 PM
Tupí is a Brazilian tribe. The Guaraní are located in both Brazil and Paraguay -- in fact, the name of the Paraguayan currency (FWIW [sic]) is guaraní.

Posted By: Jackie Re: Wanu take a look at this? - 02/11/05 02:33 AM
Isn't there a drink called guarana (sp?) there?

Posted By: tsuwm as a public service - 02/11/05 03:32 AM
>Is your title saying the site is full of s**t?

I can't help but to have noticed that some folks have difficulty rendering *^$@ (the above
ultimate word), even when triggering recognition in the reader seems to be of enormous gravity.

here then is a bit of quasi-steganography for you: $#!+



Posted By: maverick Re: as a public service - 02/11/05 02:42 PM
> $#!+

lol! you're a gem, m

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