This isn't nolens volens, but it is at least a second cousin:

willy-nilly

Function: adverb or adjective
Etymology: alteration of will I nill I or will ye nill ye or will he nill he
1 : by compulsion : without choice


(I don't include the 'spontaneous' definition #2 on purpose here because that's not a second cousin.)

unwillingness

Here are two very good words for that state: nolleity and nolition (n.).

willingness

Then there are velleity: just a wish to do something

And volition: a stronger, active determination to do something than mere velleity


So, nolens is like nolleity/nolition...

And volens is like velleity/volition...

And we can pounce the cat and have our nolleity velleity and nolition volition, I suppose.

Nice construction, Wordwind. If you ever get to God's country I'll buy you a Pabst Blue Ribbon Beer.

Nicely done.

LaCrosse, Wisconsin?

LaCrosse, Wisconsin?

Don't be silly Musick, when I speak of God's Country I speak of Heaven...

You know...
I'm Alabamy Bound, Alabama Here I Come, Carry Me Back to Ole Alabamy...

You know, the place where everyone wants to go back to.

You know, Musick,
Sweet Home Alabama; the reddest state in the land of the free.

Now Mister Musick, you must stay current.

...the place where everyone wants to go back to.

Get Back?
Back in the U.S.S.R?
Going back to Miami?

...you must stay current

Nah...I think I'll stick with the tyttebær...

http://www.nervik.com/webgalleries/Fruits_and_berries_gallery/pages/Tyttebaer_i_glass.htm

Dunno how you can call it heaven if they have PBR.

Dunno how you can call it heaven if they have PBR.

Very funny Faldage, but here in this holy land of cotton we also have posh beer for little pinky finger sip-drinking yankee snobs...such as premium Budweiser in brown long-necked bottles.

And if you ask nicely the clean waitress will bring you a nice clean glass without complaining.
It is called "Southern Hospitality".

Hey Musick, I can't bring up your URL. Do you think it might work if I re-spelled "tyttebaer"?

I cain't say much fer no hospitality what ain't got no beer what tastes like something.

Beer is more than an alcohol delivery system.

In reply to:

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Beer is more than an alcohol delivery system.

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~Faldage

Great line, Faldo, even though I detest beer.

I have to confess I stole the phrase 'alcohol delivery system' from bearrunner44's review of Bud on the beearadvocate web site:

http://beeradvocate.com/beer/rate_results/29/65/latest/10

velleity

Lovely word, Wordwind.

All our velleities are full of gaieties.

Who was it who said "If wishes were horses, beggars would ride."

P.S. Looks like others want to know the answer to that question:

Help us to maintain our history and heritage through the words and lyrics of old Nursery Rhymes like ' If wishes were horses '

If wishes were horses,
Beggars would ride.
If turnips were watches,
I would wear one by my side.

http://www.rhymes.org.uk/a43-if-wishes-were-horses.htm

Just discovered, the missing verses [at a McDonald's Restaurant in Birmingham, Alabam]:

If wishes were horses
Beggars would ride
If turnips were watches
I'd wear one by my side.

Nowadays horses
Are ridden by flies
And kids get their watches
At McDonald's with fries.

Revised

i have never before heard the second half of the couplet (If turnips were watches,
I would wear one by my side.)

thanks.

there are many threads here with classic ditties(nursery rhymes of the mother goose variety)songs, and childrens poetry.

my own children were raised with these songs.

i think its is incredible sad that some songs, (many childe ballads) which i learned as street songs, and that children have sung for hundreds of years, are becoming unknown.

children today don't know all the jump rope songs and hand clapping songs, and game songs (london bridges falling down) that i learned. and even my daughter in law is unfamiliar with the gingham dog and the calico cat (which i will be reading later today to my granddaughter.)
she did know the owl and the pussycat..
{ok, i'll conceed, most childrens poetry is pretty new.. (ie, 100 to 150 years old, vs. songs like "ring round the rosies")}

i hate sounding like an old foggy.. but scraps of poetry and song, learned long ago, still stirs happy memories.
froggy went a courting..
or
the tree is in the hole and the hole is in the ground..
or
the water is wide i can not cross over, neither have i wings to fly..
or
my bonny lies over the ocean, my bonny lies over the sea..

and all the other ones we have thread and threads of collective information about.

but really who cares (well maybe you do)about ditties that one finds in Mc Dodo's..(that is almost touting fries? do you want to super size them?)

i doubt any verse that references beggers flying can be too old. and it doesn't really add to the original couplets do you think?

it doesn't really add to the original couplets do you think?

Quite true, Of Troy.

My McCouplet does nothing to honor the enduring charm of the original, nor does it do anything to bring that charm back to us.

You and I have always agreed about the lamentable loss of poetry in the lives of the present generation of students.

They don't know what they're missing, and that is truly a pity.

And it's a loss to future generations, as well.

P.S. Furthermore my ditty containing the line "Nowadays beggars take horse in the skies" does an injustice to the plight of the poor who have little enough money for bus fare, never mind airfare. I'm sorry now I wrote it.

Your perspective gave me some valuable after-thought on my over-hasty composition. Thank you. [See Revision]

for dr bill's sake, i thought i try one more time..

1--you posted a stupid crappy bit of poesy(your term, i think used else were to justify some other stupid couplet) and claimed it first is was found in a mc donalds in birmingham

2--you admit it had nothing really to offer.

3--you also admit the truth--you made it up on the spot.. and in response to my comments edited --and made it no better or more worthwhile.

Yeah, on the internet no is supposed to know you are a dog.

but you, sir, lie. you post falsehoods. you claim you have no enemies (another lie, since you have in the not too distant past made it clear you think the 'carpels' conspire against you--and that you were determimed to drive them away. its not common to 'drive away friends" rather ones tries to distance one's self from enemies. you made it clear you had emnity with the 'carpel cabel' (a mythical group).

i tried. i took you post of face value, i acknowledged a valuable contribution. MY MISTAKE.
if you wish to understand why you post are considered odious, look to this thread.

wasted time with stupid couplets that you pass of as interesting. and then in a moment, conceed are of little to no interest. you edit them. they are just as uninterested edited.

You didn't claim the couplet as your own --at some level even you didn't want to be associated with it. but you expect me, and others to be interested. that, sir, is treating us with contempt.

and that is why you have become contemptable here. YOU ACT CONTEMPTABLE. YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE for the way you act. if you act contemptable, you will be treated to our contempt in return.
and many who used to post here, tired of your contempt and have abandon this forum.
IF you want to learn anything, learn to treat us with respect. I treated you post respectful. You played me a fool. again. is this how you treat friends? or is this how you treat enemies? i am hurt and angry. I offered an olive branch, and got a thorn bush as reply.
I like to find the good in people. i feel looking for it in you is futile.

Sorry you thought my reference to McDonald's in "Birmingham, Alabam" was something to be taken seriously, Of Troy. Truly sorry.

I used that bit about McDonald's just to be funny, i.e. to create an excuse to 'reveal' the "missing verses".

I know from previous posts that theMilum is from Birmingham, Alambama - see "Blacklisting Christmas" thread. So I thought it would be fun to suggest, in fun, that it was themilum who posted the ditty in Birmingham.

I deliberately truncated the name of the state "Alabam" to give myself away.

I thought themilum would pick up on this first.

Sorry, Of Troy. I was, and am, most grateful to have your valued reply.

I did change my McDonald's ditty because I didn't want to to perpetuate the ill-considered insensitivity it showed to "beggars". [100 years ago, the creators of nursery rhymes, and mothers who rocked babies to sleep with them, did not have the social conscience we have today.]

As for the rest of it, I acknowledged to you, sincerely, in my reply, that my additional verse is not worthy of the original nursery rhyme, and it isn't. But I considered my additional verse, on that account anyway, harmless.

And, as you know, there is a controversy raging about the nutritional value of fast food menus at a time when we have an epidemic of overeating in our society.* So I thought my hit on McDonald's [i.e. watches and fries vs turnips (veggies) and watches] was worth retaining in spite of the fact that it does nothing to recapture the charm of the original nursery rhyme.

That's my reasoning, Of Troy. I have taken the trouble to explain because I value very much the unselfish and brave effort you have made to help bring peace to the Board. I would not want any untimely and very regretable misunderstanding to upset that.

* US Hospital Tries to Evict Mcdonald's
Guardian Newspapers, December 15, 2004

Extract:

"One of America's premier cardiac hospitals is locked in a furious battle with McDonald's after its director sought to evict the fast-food outlet from the clinic's sprawling site.

After a lifetime of cleaning up clogged arteries, Toby Cosgrove, the director of the Cleveland Clinic, was convinced that fast-food restaurants had no place in an institution with a mission to promote healthier lifestyles."

http://www.buzzle.com/editorials/text12-15-2004-63023.asp

I saw this story on U.S. National TV News a week or so ago. That's why I thought it was worth keeping in my ditty. Didn't mean to diss the nursery rhyme.

I just can't resist... from another forum:
Amsterdam was hosting a conference of beer producers. At the end of the day, the presidents of all beer companies retired to the bar for a drink.

As the waiter approaches, the president of Budweiser calls out, "I'all have the best beer in the world. Give me 'The King Of Beers', a Budweiser."

Adolph Coors says, "Bring me a Coors, the only beer made with Rocky Mountain spring water."

"I'll have a Miller Genuine Draft," says the president of Miller.

Arthur Guinness down and says, "Give me a Coke, please." The other brewery presidents look over at him in amazement. "Why aren't you drinking a Guinness?" "I'd love to," says Mr. Guinness, "but I figured if you guys aren't drinking beer, neither would I."

It's an attractive image - beer company presidents going head to head.

well, I keep going back and froth about this one...

Jackie: you mentioned this on the first page: "toties quoties" - Latin also has the phrases "tot... quot" and "totiens... quotiens" which come up a bit more frequently.
Anyway, about nolens volens. I think "volens volans" sounds better (wishing, flying) or maybe "vellens vulnerans" (tearing out, damaging/injuring)
[unfortunately they don't really make sense]

volens volans Oh, I dunno; it might just be roughly translated into "sweet dreams"!