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Posted By: dodyskin can I just say - 06/03/03 12:30 PM
This is so interesting, I have been reading it for the past half an hour http://britannia.com/celtic/wales/language.html

Posted By: Jackie Re: can I just say - 06/03/03 04:54 PM
Ohmigawd, ohmigawd--I'm going to BE THERE in two weeks! Thank you! I have been dreading having to ask directions to Eglwysywrw (among other places).

Posted By: Capfka Re: can I just say - 06/03/03 07:29 PM
Omigawd, omigawd, she's going to be there in two weeks! Batten down the hatches (or however you say it in Welsh).

Posted By: Bingley Re: can I just say - 06/04/03 03:16 AM
From your site, dodyskin:

The Welsh themselves are descendants of the Galatians, to whom Paul wrote his famous letter.

This doesn't sound right. Surely the Welsh were already in Britain by the time Paul was writing his letters. Who did the Romans conquer if they weren't? That the Welsh and Galatians descended from two different migrations of the original Celtic peoples seems more probable.

Bingley
Posted By: sjm Re: can I just say - 06/04/03 03:39 AM
>The Welsh themselves are descendants of the Galatians, to whom Paul wrote his famous letter.

This doesn't sound right. Surely the Welsh were already in Britain by the time Paul was writing his letters.


Aah, pishtosh, Bingley - one ought never let the facts get in the way of a good story, you should know that.

Posted By: Jackie Re: can I just say - 06/04/03 03:50 AM
Batten down the hatches (or however you say it in Welsh).
Keep it up, Buddy, and I'll batten YOUR hatches down for you!

Posted By: Faldage The power of a comma - 06/04/03 05:41 AM
descendants of the Galatians, to whom Paul wrote his famous letter

Posted By: Bingley Re: The power of a comma - 06/04/03 05:57 AM
The comma doesn't make any difference to what I'm disputing, which is that the Welsh are descendants of the Galatians. The ancestors of the Welsh were already in the British Isles at the time Paul wrote his letter to the Galatians, who, not surprisingly, were in Galatia, which is part of modern-day Turkey.

Bingley
Posted By: Faldage Re: The power of a comma - 06/04/03 11:56 AM
The comma doesn't make any difference

Quite the otherwise. Without the comma it is a restrictive clause and *would be saying that the Welsh were descended from the very people to whom Paul had written one of his little diatribes. With it it merely identifies the Galatians, from whom the Welsh were putatively descended, as those people, a subset of to whom Paul wrote.

Whether the Welsh were, in fact, descended from the same people who populated the burg of Galatia is a whole nother question.

Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: The power of a comma - 06/04/03 12:40 PM
Faldage, I think you're picking the wrong nit.

That "whole nother question" is precisely the one Bingley is questioning.

Posted By: Faldage Re: The power of a comma - 06/04/03 01:14 PM
precisely the one Bingley is questioning

Well, he's going about it the wrong way then.

Surely the Welsh were already in Britain by the time Paul was writing his letters.

Posted By: Alex Williams Re: The power of a comma - 06/04/03 01:45 PM
JESUS: They shall have the earth...
GREGORY: What was that?
JESUS: ...for their possession. How blest are those...
MR. CHEEKY: I don't know. I was too busy talking to Big Nose.
JESUS: ...who hunger and thirst to see...
MAN #1: I think it was 'Blessed are the cheesemakers.'
JESUS: ...right prevail.
MRS. GREGORY: Ahh, what's so special about the cheesemakers?
GREGORY: Well, obviously, this is not meant to be taken literally. It refers to any manufacturers of dairy products.


Posted By: Capfka Re: The power of a comma - 06/04/03 09:11 PM


Posted By: wow Re: Pronouncing Irish - 06/07/03 04:34 PM
Jackie, In Ireland you will be OK. The only off pronunciation I ran across was Youghal ... a town in SE.You shouuld have no trouble with Youghal
Locals get their amusement from the various ways the tourists mangle their town's name - Y'all. (Or yawl) if you are of a seafaring bent.)

Posted By: consuelo Re: Pronouncing Irish - 06/07/03 05:00 PM
A little something to look into before we go
http://www.at.artslink.co.za/~gerry/irish.htm

From the site:
SIGNS YOU'VE BEEN IN GALWAY TOO LONG

1. You say "Howsa' goin" all the time
2. You can't remember a weekend when a friend from Dublin or Cork was'nt sleeping on your couch
3. When you meet someone on Tuesday afternoon you tell them you haven't been out in ages then remember that you were chatting to that same person last night in the Quays
4. You agree with all taxi drivers on all subjects - why bother getting thick
5. Unless the taxi driver is from Mayo
6. Unless, like half the population living in Galway, you're from Mayo
7. When you say you live in Galway, people immediately smile and tell you about their wild weekend in Salthill when they were 16 You nod enthusiastically about the same venue, despite the fact that you were never there
8. You think that it's perfectly normal to have six buskers (including an Ethopian bagpipe player), eight street entertainers, 19 Romanian beggers, a krusty holding some bailing twine tied to a raggedy dog telling fortunes and four separate roadworks all on the one street

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