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Posted By: tsuwm noisome - 04/10/03 03:34 PM
today's word from dictionary.com, which includes this citation:

The body politic produces noisome and unseemly substances, among which are politicians.

--P. J. O'Rourke, "No Apparent Motive," The Atlantic, November 2002


Posted By: Jackie Re: noisome - 04/10/03 03:48 PM

I detect a distinct odor from that body...

Posted By: wwh Re: noisome - 04/10/03 04:04 PM
Body politic not annoy some, annoy all.

Posted By: Zed Re: politics - 04/10/03 11:07 PM
I liked the comedian's (can't remember his name) comment about breaking the word down to understand it. "Poly- is a math term which means many. And a tic is a blood sucking insect."

Posted By: maahey Re: noisome - 04/11/03 01:04 AM
I recently came across a very nice word, which is a perfect synonym for noisome. Mephitic. If Phoebe (from Friends) was an AWADer, her cat might have been a mephitic mephistopheles, what!

Posted By: Capfka Re: noisome - 04/11/03 11:41 AM
You can't beat PJ for stringing the words together, can you?

Posted By: wofahulicodoc devil-may-care - 04/11/03 02:43 PM
her cat might have been a mephitic mephistopheles, what!

Isn't there already a mephitis mephitica, a.k.a. the common skunk? translated from the Latin as "the smelliest of the smelly"?
mentioned in of all places When Worlds Collide/After Worlds Collide, by Edwin Balmer and Philip Wylie, ca. 1936 I think



Posted By: Zed Re: devil-may-care - 04/11/03 11:10 PM
So how did we wind up with noisome meaning smelly when noisy refers to sound?

Posted By: wwh Re: devil-may-care - 04/12/03 12:15 AM
What kind of a noise annoys an oyster? My dictionary says "noisome" is aphetic for annoy,
neaning the "a" got dropped.And skunks are Mustelidae.
Mephitis mephitis.
Posted By: Krzysztof Re: noisome - 04/21/03 05:58 PM
I read a few post about "noisome" but I still don't understand what does noisome means. Does "body politic" means metaphorically speaking "party" - ask you about the above Krzysztof from Poland.

Posted By: tsuwm Re: noisome - 04/21/03 07:28 PM
it seems noisome needs some clarification:
A) the root is noy (as in annoy); probably not related to noise.
B) only one sense has to do specifically with smell; to wit,
1. Harmful, injurious, noxious
Suche bookes, writinges,..teachinges, and instructions, as be pestiferous, and noysome. - Henry VIII
2. Offensive to the sense of smell; ill-smelling.
His blind and aged father..lay in a noisome dungeon, while he enjoyed the free air. - Mary Shelly, Frankenstein
3. Disagreeable, unpleasant, offensive.
Even such a noisome thing as a collection of postage stamps. - William James, Talks to Teachers
4. Annoying, troublesome. Obs. rare.


Posted By: Bingley Re: noisome - 04/22/03 04:49 AM
Krzysztof, the body politic is an old-fashioned expression meaning the state, or politicians in general.

Bingley
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