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Posted By: consuelo Northern Lights - 03/04/02 10:01 PM
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/photo/travel/northernlights/index.htm
Click on the Enter Gallery at the bottom of the text for a real treat. Do you have anything like this in the "other" top of the world?

Posted By: Keiva Re: Northern Lights - 03/04/02 10:08 PM
Aurorae are indeed beautiful, aren't they, Connie? We almost never get them this far south, but the one time we did ... oh! what a night!

The southern- and northern-hemisphere versions are, I believe, respectively called the aurora australis and the aurora borealis.

Connie's gallery-link is spectacular, and several incredible aurora pictures can be found on that lovely site Helen provided about a week and a half ago:

aurora over New Zealand: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap010406.html
volcano and aurora in Iceland: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap020121.html
the Black Aurora: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap020101.html
red aurora: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap020115.html (personal favorite)
aurora over clouds: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap010402.html
Or choose your own from http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/cgi-bin/apod/apod_search?aurora. As you can see, I'm excited about that site. Thank you, Helen!
Posted By: Max Quordlepleen . - 03/04/02 10:13 PM
Posted By: Max Quordlepleen . - 03/04/02 10:24 PM
Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: Northern Lights - 03/04/02 10:35 PM
Although I didn't live quite as far up south as Rakiura, we got to see the southern aurora reasonably often, obviously normally during unusually strong sunspot activity. Although it always appeared a bit freaky, I can't remember seeing any that were mindblowing from the beauty point of view. It was usually just a kind of translucent curtain in one or maybe two colours. Like most natural phenomena, it did manage to make me feel very small and insignificant.

The worst instance of that, however, occurred once when I was riding my motorbike along a coastal road on the West Coast of the South Island. The front wheel of the bike sort of shimmeyed, and I assumed I'd ridden over a patch of oil. But then I happened to glance at the hills to my left, and they were rising and falling going south like a Mexican wave. It wasn't exaggerated or anything, but it was quite plain. An earthquake had just rolled underneath me! [gibbering wreck on two wheels -e]

Posted By: consuelo Re: Northern Lights - 03/04/02 10:38 PM
The town where I am from in Northern Lower Michigan is far enough North to see the A.B. I have had that pleasure more than a few times. It is an awesome sight, and yes, I have heard them as well. I have primarily seen the pale green and/or the white varieties, but once, be still my heart, I saw red ones. The best memory, though, was at [can you guess?] Stone Circle. I lay on my back not far from the fire, watching the Northern Lights and listening to a hammered dulcimer being played right next to me. [pure joy-e]

Posted By: Jackie Re: Northern Lights - 03/05/02 02:48 AM
Augh! The one thing I would regret dying without experiencing is this phenomenon. I wanna move North! (Or maybe, WAY-AY south...Hi Max and CK!)

Posted By: consuelo Re: Northern Lights - 03/05/02 03:53 AM
Come camping with me after Wapaloo, then. I can't guarantee anything, but there is always a better chance when you get away from the lights of civilization.

Posted By: Rubrick Re: Northern Lights - 03/05/02 09:59 AM
Or visit the Hebrides in Scotland or the North of Norway. Worth going to to even if you don't see the Aurorae. Travel in August so that you get the double benefit of seeing the Leonids aswell!

Posted By: Bean Re: Northern Lights - 03/05/02 02:50 PM
Or visit the Hebrides in Scotland or the North of Norway. Worth going to to even if you don't see the Aurorae.

Probably true, but you don't have to go that far. We saw them in Winnipeg (an hour's drive from the US border) "all the time". (No good in St. John's - it's ALWAYS cloudy.) So the northern US should do it. Though Scotland and Norway sound more exotic!

Posted By: Keiva Re: Northern Lights - 03/05/02 04:49 PM
We saw them in Winnipeg

Aurora Over Winnipeg: http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap011105.html

Posted By: TheFallibleFiend Re: Northern Lights - 03/05/02 05:39 PM

Friend of mine recently saw NL for the first time on a vacation to Iceland. Having lived in AK for a number of years, I had tried to explain it to him. On his return, he was nevertheless astounded at the variety of colors and the way the light moved - not at all what he expected.


Sometimes, when you see a thing often, you come to take it for granted. I remember staring at it for hours till I damned near froze to death when we first moved up north. Near the end of our stay, I hardly noticed. Often I've wished that I could see it again.


k


Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: Northern Lights - 03/07/02 07:25 PM
I lay on my back not far from the fire, watching the Northern Lights and listening to a hammered dulcimer being played right next to me.

Well there you are, Connie, you learn something new every day, don't you? I'd love to see a hammered dulcimer. What do they drink, alcohol-based wood polish? Do they play in tune once they're hammered?

Could you arrange this as a poster exhibition at WP?

Posted By: Fiberbabe Re: Northern Lights - 03/07/02 07:41 PM
I lay on my back not far from the fire, watching the Northern Lights and listening to a hammered dulcimer being played right next to me.

You make a fine point, CK. I would argue that once the dulcimer is hammered, it would be easier to deal a play.

"Hey baby, what key are you in? Can I buy you another varnish?"


Posted By: Jackie Re: Northern Lights - 03/08/02 02:30 AM
I'd love to see a hammered dulcimer.
Ohhhh, CK, that instrument has the most beautiful sound! Just...the feeling it gives is just indescribable! Pretty! PLEASING! Happy even when sad. Dancing! Delicate! Yippee!

Posted By: consuelo Re: Northern Lights - 03/09/02 05:37 PM
For information and a picture, CapK, and the rest that are interested
http://www.rtpnet.org/~hdweb/about/history/index.html

Posted By: WhitmanO'Neill Re: The Southern Cross - 03/10/02 09:36 PM
Isn't the Southern Cross a part of this phenomena in the Southern hemisphere?

Posted By: Jazzoctopus Re: The Southern Cross - 03/10/02 10:34 PM
Isn't the Southern Cross a part of this phenomena in the Southern hemisphere?

The Southern Cross is just another constellation, so I doubt it. I can't see how a few stars of varying billions of light-years away can have any effect on electronic particles hitting the atmosphere.

Posted By: Max Quordlepleen . - 03/10/02 11:42 PM
Posted By: WhitmanO'Neill Re: The Southern Cross - 03/10/02 11:48 PM
The Southern Cross is just another constellation

Yup, Jazzo...I should know the Southern Cross is a constellation. Don't know why I connected it with the aurora.
And, by the way, Southern Cross isn't a bad Crosby, Stills & Nash tune, either.

Posted By: Keiva Aurora over Antactica - 03/21/02 12:10 AM
I remember staring at it for hours till I damned near froze to death

Today's picture at http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod is a spectacular aurora over Antactica. You'd have certain frozen here, FF: the outside temperature at the time this photograph was taken was about -73ºC (-100ºF).

Posted By: hev Re: Aurora over Antarctica - 03/21/02 04:10 AM
As a postscript to Keiva, this is the actual pic. I went to look and saw a green sun, and thought I was seeing strange things, but that's because I got the *new "Pic of the Day". This is the url for the pic Keiva was referring to yesterday:

http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap020320.html

Oh, and it's Antarctica. Can't let things from the "top of the world" be spelt wrong.

Hev
Posted By: TheFallibleFiend Re: Aurora over Antarctica - 03/21/02 09:55 AM


Thanks to you and kei. Similar to what I remember.


But my recollection was it was many different colors at once - green, blue, red - and that it was moving continuously and quickly - like one of those psychedelic lights. I don't know. Maybe my memory is making it out to be more than it was.


k


Posted By: Keiva Re: Aurora over Antarctica - 03/21/02 12:27 PM
Thanks, Hev! Came in this morning (when "today" had become "yesterday") to update the url, and found that a fast-fingered sheila had beaten me to it!

Posted By: stales Re: Northern Lights - 03/21/02 02:05 PM
> Augh! The one thing I would regret dying without experiencing is this phenomenon. I wanna move North! (Or maybe, WAY-AY south...Hi Max and CK!

What she said.

Oh - and not having sung "You'll never walk alone" on the kop!! Hi Dunc

stales

Posted By: Jackie Re: Northern Lights - 03/21/02 02:28 PM
What's a kop, please? Send private if it's embarrassing.

Posted By: wwh Re: Northern Lights - 03/21/02 02:52 PM
I have seen magazine articles about sounds associated with aurora, and also with meteorites. Big problem is that sound travels so slow compared to light, there would be a very large time difference. There are theories that there is energy enough in non-visible spectrum to be converted to sound by something close to the observer - aluminum foil, etc. etc. Here's a URL with discussion by a physicist.

http://www.gi.alaska.edu/ScienceForum/ASF10/1096.html



Posted By: stales Re: Northern Lights - 03/21/02 03:00 PM
Wheresyabeen Jacks??

http://wordsmith.org/board/showthreaded.pl?Cat=&Board=wordplay&Number=58878

At Anfield, home of the mighty reds - Liverpool Football Club, England.

stales

Posted By: dxb Re: Northern Lights - Kop - 03/21/02 05:08 PM
There is a steep street in Shrewsbury in Shropshire called Wyle Cop. I suppose the buildings and the street itself go back to at least the 16th century - there is by the way a splendidly idiosyncratic coaching inn, now a hotel, called The Lion - indicating that the word Kopje was adopted and distorted in this country in the dim and distant past - possibly Viking influence?

Posted By: Jackie Re: Northern Lights - 03/22/02 01:57 AM
Oh, thanks, stales--I knew I'd seen it recently. Afrikaans--sigh--I still miss David108.

Posted By: stales Re: Northern Lights - Kop - 03/22/02 04:19 PM
dxb - don't think I've had the pleasure?

G'day mate - and welcome

stales

Posted By: Keiva Re: Aurora over Alaska - 04/23/02 05:04 PM
A truly spectacular aurora, featured yesterday:
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ap020422.html

It strikes me that the red and green colors shown here are unusual in aurorae, blue and violet being more typical. Can anyone confirm or explain this?

Posted By: wwh Re: Aurora over Alaska - 04/23/02 07:10 PM
I have seen a red aurora in Massachusetts. The solar particles can have a spectrum of frequencies, and so when converted to light, different colors.

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