TEd and Dr. Bill just pushed me over the edge in the Working Woes and urban hang-gliding threads - ergo, I start this thread for the benefit of any other "refined ladies" (as I've been named for the first time ever in my life... by Dr. Bill, no less!) who would like to take a crack at womanly conversation. Tampons, childbirth, that not-so-fresh feeling? The Gutter Police seems to have shaken her head and walked away in dismay, and I can't say as I blame her... Let's give it to 'em, ladies. [why doesn't this thing have an evil grin?-e]

Let's give it to 'em, ladies.

Animal Safari?

[so much for the gentle sex e]

Remember the Johnny Mercer song: " I love my Sugar because she's so refined....."

Listen to Women...for a Change

yes-- things have taken a turn for the worse.. all over the board.

i think that we, of all the people in the world should realize that The pen is a mightier sceptor than the sword. Words do have the power to hurt-- and there have been seveal threads that have just gone beyond what is acceptable. In one thread- you guys even noticed and commented on the lack of one half of the board posting -- we might have read it, but we did nothing to encourage it.

one of the really nice things about this board, is nothing is off limits.. within reason. but its not going to be very fun if every thread has posts with derogitory comments.

i think what is missing is wit-- a sly, double entre is fun-- you laugh before you blush . but thats not what we've had of late. of late, way to many post have been using words as swords-- and we woman (and ladies) have been cut to the quick.

WO'N included a poem, that expresses an idea that today is unacceptable.. the idea of physically beating a wife. Most of western society has reach a concensus this is not accepblable behaviour. but we still have problem with language. there are no "wopersons" -- but it is still very easy to use words to dis-- (fill in any number of words, ~miss, ~parage, ~enfranchize, ~member) women.

and if we women go off on a rant, as i am, it is all to easy to label us hysterical-- and yes, dr bill we know the root of the word.

i going to chalk it up to end of summer mischief-- and expect it all to end very quickly.

Dear Faldage: I think you are suffering from subliminal influence by the words at the bottom of each page: "Jump to Animal Safari" I have managed to resist it. All it reminds me of is cartoon in New Yorker many years ago, showing wealthy tourists on safari, and a gorilla is just leaving the clearing where they are having a meal, with one of the females over his shoulder. One of the remaining females is saying very cattily to another:" I wonder what he sees in her."

Plus ça change. plus c' est même chose.

you and faldage might have private corespondence, and really be quite friendly, but when it comes to public behaviour "catty" is the word for it -- it clear you two are a couple of tom cat. and your caterwauling is distictly unpleasant.

Dear of troy: sock it to us. That will give us something better to post to. Faldage and I are just trying to get things moving.

of troy-
I don't think the person who posted the poem was condoning wife-beating - he or she (I don't remember who) even expressed some shock at its contents.

WhitmanO'Neill in Worse Verse quoted A.E. Housman as using Eve as an excuse for beating his wife, and thought it was PinC. I never dared beat my wife, she was my size. And I also quoted elsewhere the old one about the guy who when about to beat his wife, as soon as he got her skirt up, forgot what he was mad about. There's a lot of stupid stuff in the Bible, and the Adam and Eve bit is in that class.

>TEd ... just pushed me over the edge in the Working Woes and urban hang-gliding threads

Say what? Huh? Who, I?

Seriously, what did I do that I certainly didn't mean to do. Remember, I prefer women over men COMPLETELY!!

TEd

PS:

No menstruation jokes. Period.

Dear TEd: I never thought I'd hear you use a period as your excuse.

Since this thread was initiated "for the benefit of any refined ladies", I hereby propose that any gentleman wishing to contribute his wisdom provide it specially colored, as below, so that it can easily be given all attention it merits.
Any male who fails to do so is no gentleman.

I don't think the person who posted the poem was condoning wife-beating - he or she (I don't remember who) even expressed some shock at its contents.

I think of troy was using the poem as an example of changed attitudes, not calling me down for posting it, francais, which is the whole point. To have a poem like that by an author of that stature published in the humor section of a Hallmark poetry anthology in 1960 really boggled my mind. That's why I said I was aghast when I encountered the final line, and put it up as "The Most Politically Incorrect Poem Ever." Just mentioning all this for clarity's sake...my intentions were not to offend but to illustrate what of troy said pertaining to the poem. Thanks, francais, for trying to keep things on even keel.

Illegible post as requested. About Housman's poem. Does it make a difference to anybody's opinion if you know that he was gay and never married, so had no wife to beat and presumably could have been satirising other people's attitudes rather than advocating wife-beating.

Bingley