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Posted By: tsuwm okay, maybe not so useless - 09/07/11 03:19 PM
sailworthy
(listed as obs. rare by OED)
Of weather: Admitting of the use of sails.

The weather was perfectly sailworthy just hours before the hurricane struck.
___

but in somewhat limited use today in a slightly different sense..
Of sailboats: in good sailing condition
Posted By: LukeJavan8 Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/07/11 03:35 PM
grin
Posted By: BranShea Re: lucky sails, lucky engins - 09/07/11 04:13 PM
Maybe the transfer in meaning from weather to boat happened since the time sailboats got outboard or inboard engines. The weather became less of an issue? Hurricanes of course would still mean 'unsailworthy', but wind still is no longer a problem.
Posted By: tsuwm Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/08/11 01:32 AM
tardiloquent
obs. rare
Speaking slowly, slow-speaking

in Reading the OED, Ammon Shea suggests, "In my estimation, there are only two possible reasons people speak slowly. Either they are not quite bright enough to get the words out any faster or they think you aren't quite bright enough to understand them any other way. In either case you're stuck in a conversation with someone who is tardiloquent, and something has gone horribly wrong."
Posted By: Jackie Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/08/11 02:43 AM
[snort] laugh
Posted By: Candy Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/08/11 09:26 AM
there could be a third way....
I've noticed when people talk to the hard of hearing, their speech slows too.
Posted By: LukeJavan8 Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/08/11 02:34 PM
whatever crazy
Posted By: tsuwm Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/08/11 04:49 PM
Originally Posted By: Candy
there could be a third way....
I've noticed when people talk to the hard of hearing, their speech slows too.


as one who has ~50% hearing loss*, I often need to tell people not to speak up but to slow down..

*this effectively means I'm guessing half the time at what was just said!
Posted By: BranShea Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/08/11 08:33 PM
Where googling tardiloquent gives 0 hits and instead presents ample entries for grandiloquent, the word gaudiloquent: speaking with joy or happiness, gets 169 , which is pretty obscure too.

* I hope you can 100% read what was just written wink
Posted By: Jackie Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/09/11 12:52 AM
gaudiloquent: speaking with joy or happiness I love it! Thank you!
Posted By: va-vavoom Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/09/11 03:01 PM
Not just the hard of hearing, but also those who speak a different language. And, not just more slowly, but louder, too, as if that makes the meaning more clear. *lol*
I have a hard time hearing (too many rock concerts and guns) certain kinds of voices (lower range, such as mens voices)and often find myself watching peoples lips instead of looking at their faces to help myself distinguish words.
Posted By: LukeJavan8 Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/09/11 03:03 PM
Fast moving speakers, or those who speak quickly,softly when
not facing a camera, are those I often miss. Frequenly I'll rewind
the disc to see again what they said. But if not facing the
camera it skips right on by: poor cinematic directing.
Posted By: va-vavoom Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/09/11 03:58 PM
I thought once that I saw a word (maybe made up?) for that phenomenon of speaking loudly and slowly to someone who didn't speak the same language. But, maybe I am just making THAT up, but I think it was on one of those lists of 'fractured' words.
Posted By: Faldage Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/10/11 11:20 AM
I've also noticed, with my degraded hearing, that people almost always lower the volume of their voices when they're wrapping up whatever it is they're saying. Frequently this comes when they're getting to the point they're trying to make. I'll hear the lead up to what they're trying to get across but not the conclusion.
Posted By: Jackie Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/11/11 12:22 AM
I'll hear the lead up to what they're trying to get across but not the conclusion. Oh, dear, that is truly terrible...

Seriously, I have read that if you want to get people to pay closer attention, lower your voice. That may be why.
Posted By: LukeJavan8 Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/11/11 12:29 AM
Originally Posted By: Jackie
I'll hear the lead up to what they're trying to get across but not the conclusion. Oh, dear, that is truly terrible...

Seriously, I have read that if you want to get people to pay closer attention, lower your voice. That may be why.



Oftentimes in a classroom that would work better than raising the
voice.
Posted By: BranShea Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/11/11 04:19 PM
btw, is there no antonym for tardiloquent like f.i. hastiloquent? I knew a little boy who talked so fast he couldn't even follow what he was saying himself and ended up at the logopedist's.
Posted By: Faldage Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/11/11 09:24 PM
I'd go with celerloquent or maybe celeriloquent. Or, if you don't mind mixing Greek and Latin roots, tachyloquent.
Posted By: Tromboniator Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/11/11 09:56 PM
Veloquent?
Posted By: BranShea Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/11/11 10:31 PM
Celerloquent does not run that smooth and celeriloquent smells of celery. Tachyloquent looks nice as long as it means fast and veloquent (trombion) reminds of bicycles.
Posted By: Faldage Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/12/11 12:55 AM
Originally Posted By: BranShea
Celerloquent does not run that smooth and celeriloquent smells of celery. Tachyloquent looks nice as long as it means fast and veloquent (trombion) reminds of bicycles.


I agree on celerloquent. Celeriloquent is pronounced with the emphasis on the second syllable. And yes, the tachy- in tachyloquent is from the Greek for fast.
Posted By: tsuwm Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/12/11 01:40 AM
zoomiloquent or tsuwmiloquent

grin
Posted By: Faldage Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/12/11 10:32 AM
Originally Posted By: tsuwm
zoomiloquent or tsuwmiloquent


If mixing Greek and Latin roots isn't edgy enough for you.

And tsuwmiloquent would mean 'using obscure or worthless words.'
Posted By: tsuwm Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/12/11 03:33 PM
that's as may be, but I was using the really obscure (Hebrew) sense of tsuwm, meaning 'to fast' (as apposed to zoom, 'too fast').
Posted By: Faldage Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/12/11 11:50 PM
Originally Posted By: tsuwm
that's as may be, but I was using the really obscure (Hebrew) sense of tsuwm, meaning 'to fast' (as apposed to zoom, 'too fast').


Is that 'to fast' as in not eat food?
Posted By: tsuwm Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/13/11 12:26 AM
yep.
Posted By: Jackie Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/13/11 03:02 AM
Celeriloquent is pronounced with the emphasis on the second syllable. Wha-at?? Cel-AIR-iloquent is impossible; cel-AIR-IL-oquent is just too...mooz.

And, tsuwm, NOW you tell us, after fourteen years, that your name is from Welsh?!
Posted By: tsuwm Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/13/11 03:13 AM
>Welsh?!

Welsh?? are you accusing me of welching?!

Posted By: Faldage Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/13/11 09:55 AM
Originally Posted By: Jackie
Celeriloquent is pronounced with the emphasis on the second syllable. Wha-at?? Cel-AIR-iloquent is impossible


Impossible for you, maybe. Rolls right off MY tongue. But then I grew up in a part of the country we we learn to speak distinctly. And you've got it divided up kinda funny-like. It's suh LAIR uh luh kwent.
Posted By: zmjezhd Re: we the the people - 09/13/11 01:10 PM
But then I grew up in a part of the country we we learn to speak distinctly.

Oui oui or wee-wee?
Posted By: LukeJavan8 Re: we the the people - 09/13/11 03:16 PM
UH-OH!
Posted By: tsuwm Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/13/11 03:53 PM
faculent

(fr. L. fax, torch)
obs. rare
Giving forth light like a torch; bright, clear

compare luculent
(not to be confused with feculent!)
Posted By: BranShea Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/13/11 08:41 PM
fax must have wanderbursched off to fakkel and fackel in Germanic languages. = torch
Posted By: olly Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/14/11 12:13 AM
heres one

Fatiloquent
Fa*til"o*quent\, a. [See Fatiloquist.] Prophetic; fatidical. [Obs.]

Fatiloquist
Fa*til"o*quist\, n. [L. fatiloquus declaring fate; fatum fate+ Loqui to speak.] A fortune teller.
Posted By: BranShea Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/14/11 06:50 AM
smile So which is the more prestigious one: the quent or the quist?
What's the difference between loquent and loquist, you lurking latinists?
Posted By: Faldage Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/14/11 10:33 AM
Originally Posted By: BranShea
smile So which is the more prestigious one: the quent or the quist?
What's the difference between loquent and loquist, you lurking latinists?


loquent would be an adjective and loquist a noun.
Posted By: BranShea Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/14/11 07:09 PM
Which keeps me wondering why a Fatiloquist is not a Holy Prophet, but a cheapy greasy fortune teller. Why is the adjective prophet and the noun profane?

( maybe I'm scripticritic after all )
Posted By: tsuwm Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/14/11 07:16 PM
>maybe I'm scripticritic after all

or maybe just a criticaster.

:wink
Posted By: Jackie Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/15/11 02:14 AM
Welsh?? are you accusing me of welching?! laugh Naw--it just occurred to me that tsuwm rhymes with cwm--well, almost.
Posted By: tsuwm Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/15/11 02:59 AM
Originally Posted By: Jackie
Welsh?? are you accusing me of welching?! laugh Naw--it just occurred to me that tsuwm rhymes with cwm--well, almost.


where's dat bashing head into brick wall icon? you know the one I mean.
Posted By: zmjezhd Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/15/11 01:06 PM
-it just occurred to me that tsuwm rhymes with cwm--well, almost.

I thought you'd pronounce tsuwm with about 4 syllables.
Posted By: va-vavoom Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/15/11 02:47 PM
so....I am still waiting for that word that describes people who talk more slowly and loudly to people who speak a different language. ??
Posted By: LukeJavan8 Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/15/11 03:02 PM
You'll probably have a long wait.
Posted By: zmjezhd Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/15/11 03:18 PM
so....I am still waiting for that word that describes people who talk more slowly and loudly to people who speak a different language. ??

Americans? Monoglots? But seriously, I don't think there is a word.
Posted By: BranShea Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/16/11 11:27 AM
Troglodyloquists.

( Hello Luke, how about giving it a try yourself? ) ;-)
Posted By: LukeJavan8 Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/16/11 02:59 PM
Sorry, Bran,

Try what???
Posted By: BranShea Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/16/11 05:53 PM
Try to find va-vavoom a word that does not exist.
Posted By: LukeJavan8 Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/16/11 09:34 PM
Sorry, I lost track of the theme of this thread until
va-vavoom's question. The earlier stuff was too "out there"
to grasp my interest. I am afraid I have to agree with Zm
and say I do not know of a word to fit the question.
Your's is good however, as good as any, better than most.
Posted By: Tromboniator Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/17/11 07:38 AM
Xenolarghissimofortiloquent?
Posted By: Candy Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/17/11 01:03 PM
Originally Posted By: Tromboniator
Xenolarghissimofortiloquent?


Fantastic word.

Posted By: BranShea Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/17/11 02:54 PM
Definitely containing all the ingredients, but quite a mouthful of it. smile
Posted By: LukeJavan8 Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/17/11 02:56 PM
Originally Posted By: Tromboniator
Xenolarghissimofortiloquent?



And it just rolls off the tongue.


It has my vote: what think you va-vavoom??
Posted By: BranShea Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/19/11 08:15 AM
Pauciloquent

Pau*cil"o*quent\, a. Uttering few words; brief in speech. [R.]

"In my estimation pauciloquists are brief in speech because they have little to say or they have so much to say they can't even imagine where to begin."
-anon.
Posted By: Jackie Re: okay, maybe not so useless - 09/20/11 02:20 AM
Oh, I like that one!
Posted By: va-vavoom Xenolarghissimofortiloquent? - 09/22/11 02:54 PM
Can you say that loudly and slowly for me please? *lol*
Really, I swear I saw a word for it somewhere!

I love the 'hiss' in the middle of this, because isn't that just what you feel like doing when the other person doesn't understand you (whether from not speaking the same language or being deaf) no matter how much you raise your voice and enunciate?
Posted By: LukeJavan8 Re: Xenolarghissimofortiloquent? - 09/22/11 03:42 PM
I think I can say it, but don't know how on this site unless
using phonetic signs (for which I'd probably later be blasted
for using the wrong ones.)

You like the hiss sound because of your love of reptiles.

This words still has my vote on this thread.
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