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Posted By: kummini `more than one' - 03/27/01 04:52 AM
Hello All,

What is the correct usage - `more than one book' or `more than one books'?

I am confused over whether `more than' modifies `one' (in which case, the correct expression would be the latter) or if it modifies `one book' (in which case, the correct expression would be the former).

Thanks,
Manoj.

Bangalore India
12°58' N, 77°39' E

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Posted By: shanks Re: `more than one' - 03/27/01 09:34 AM
Manoj

The 'correct' expression is 'more than one book'.

'More than' (like less than) refers to the noun phrase 'one book', which is why it doesn't take the 's'.

Similarly, 'fewer than two books' doesn't drop the 's' (even though the implication is that we are talking about only one book, or no books at all).

That's as far as my 'natural' grammar goes. Hope it helps.

cheer

the sunshine warrior

Posted By: musick Re: `more than one' - 03/27/01 12:16 PM
Welcome kummini!

Aha. Finally a question I have thought of asking, forgot about, and then had the rewarding experience of being reminded with a place to put it!

Why do we say no "books" instead of "no book" (or "any book")? (Ir)regardless of how much effort it will take to eliminate the "s" at the end, it does sound similar to blokes on the other side of the pond who say "On Holiday" or "To Hospital" (eliminating the article "a").

... we don't need no stinkin' book...

Posted By: Jackie Re: `more than one' - 03/27/01 12:54 PM
Welcome aBoard, kummini, and please say hello to sweet Avy if you get the chance.

Musick, I think 'no book' or 'no books' depends on the context.
Ex.: "I looked on the shelf where you told me to, but there was no book there". Or, say, an art teacher whose awaited manual on framing did not come in when expected, would have to tell his class, "I was going to show you xyz
technique, but I have no book". But if there was a shipment of textbooks for the students that had been delayed, then they would have no books.

Posted By: belMarduk Re: `more than one' - 03/27/01 03:46 PM
It also depends on the use of 'is' or 'are'

There is no book.
There are no books.

Posted By: Bingley Re: `more than one' - 03/28/01 04:23 AM
Surely the choice of is or are depends on whether its book or books, not the other way round.

Bingley
Posted By: musick More than one sound... - 03/31/01 04:10 PM
I thank you all for the grammar lesson, I guess I asked for it...

My larger question is: given the communication of the ideas seem to be successful without addin' an article "a" (or the plural "s" when talking about the collective "stinkin' book"), it is the additional sound(s), or lack thereof, which I seek the splaynin' for. Those gratuitous US's addin' something extra again or are they keepin' up some long standin' "puritan" tradition?

Posted By: Avy Re: `more than one' - 04/01/01 12:27 AM
Welcome Kummini from one Bangalorean to another

P.S Aren't the Gulmohurs, Jacarandas, and the Frangipani looking lovely?
Posted By: wwh Re: `more than one' - 04/01/01 12:51 AM
"Aren't the Gulmohurs, Jacarandas, and the Frangipani
looking lovely?"

Ah, dear Avy, have you no words for their fragrance? They undoubtedly look lovely, but I enjoy their perfume more.Bill



Posted By: Avy Re: `more than one' - 04/01/01 01:13 AM

Dear Bill, Bangalore used to be called the garden city of India. Now it is the Tech City of India. But the trees are still here - rubbing shoulders with Technology Parks. And every year in the period between Jan - May they burst into bloom and make a statement with their flowers . This period is summer for us. So it is very hot. It is as though nature on one hand makes it unbearable with the heat and as a concession she gives us this beautiful sight of flowering trees. And there are bees and the butterflies. (One sat on my hand the other day) As the Persian couplet says - if there be paradise on earth - it is here! it is here! it is here!

(And then there is the pollution, traffic, dust, and over crowding, but y'alls don't want to hear about all that.)


Posted By: Jackie Re: `more than one' - 04/01/01 01:26 AM
y'alls don't want to hear about all that.)

Mah goodnay-uss, A-vee, yew ah soundin' mo' and mo' lack a
Suthun U.S.'n, between that 'y'alls' and yer 'dagnabbits'.






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