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Posted By: AnnaStrophic How do you native speakers pronounce: - 12/19/07 10:54 PM
Caribbean?

Nativity?

I say:

CariBEEan

and

NahTIvity
Posted By: tsuwm Re: How do you native speakers pronounce: - 12/19/07 11:38 PM
CaRIBbean

I can't figure out another way to say naTIvity..
Posted By: olly Re: How do you native speakers pronounce: - 12/19/07 11:43 PM
I say: CariBEEan and Nuhtivity. It may be a Kywy thing.
Posted By: BranShea Re: How do you native speakers pronounce: - 12/20/07 08:11 AM
NatiVIty and CaribBEAN (for non native speakers and other Barbarians)-(hi,Anna )
Posted By: latishya Re: How do you native speakers pronounce: - 12/20/07 12:57 PM
Originally Posted By: olly
I say: CariBEEan and Nuhtivity. It may be a Kywy thing.


If you're a Kiwi, were you affected by that quake?
Originally Posted By: tsuwm
CaRIBbean

I can't figure out another way to say naTIvity..


I've been hearing it increasingly as nayTIvity.
Posted By: Owlbow Re: How do you native speakers pronounce: - 12/20/07 02:44 PM
'same as you.
but - I co-led a carol sing-along last week with two other musicians, one sang:
"...Sav-ee-ore..."
In Leftpond, nuhTIVitee keriBEuhn
Posted By: olly Re: How do you native speakers pronounce: - 12/20/07 08:17 PM
Originally Posted By: latishya
If you're a Kiwi, were you affected by that quake?


Yes, in an indirect way. It is all over the first 4 pages of this mornings paper. Gisborne is about Four Hundred Kilometres South of me. But by all accounts it was very frightening for the locals. However, in 1931 the 7.8 magnitude Napier earthquake in the same region was New Zealands largest natural disaster. Excluding NZ Idol! And our early exit from the Rugby World Cup. And.....
Posted By: Aramis Re: How do you native speakers pronounce: - 12/20/07 09:32 PM
Well some of its natives will say "Mar Caribe". Just wishing some holiday cheer anyway since you posters will have a week-and-change rest from Kafkaesque campiness.
Posted By: Faldage Re: How do you native speakers pronounce: - 12/21/07 12:25 AM
Originally Posted By: olly
I say: CariBEEan and Nuhtivity. It may be a Kywy thing.


Are you putting the emPHAsis on the first syLABuhl?
Posted By: olly Re: How do you native speakers pronounce: - 12/22/07 10:36 AM
Originally Posted By: Faldage
Are you putting the emPHAsis on the first syLABuhl?


Ya could be onta somink dere. A plausibility.
Posted By: Zed Re: How do you native speakers pronounce: - 12/25/07 11:45 PM
I would say Caribean and Naytivity. Although every once in a while I'm startled when the former comes out as Caribeean.
Posted By: Hydra Re: How do you native speakers pronounce: - 12/26/07 06:05 AM
I thought (incorrectly) that the noun was pronounced CaribBEan and the adjective, CaRIBbean.

But here's what the dictionary says.

Quote:
USAGE There are two possible pronunciations of the word Caribbean, and both are used widely and acceptably in the U.S. In the Caribbean itself, the preferred pronunciation puts the stress on the -rib-. In Britain, speakers more often put the stress on the -be-, although in recent years, the other pronunciation has gained ground in Britain as the more 'up-to-date' and, to some, the more 'correct' pronunciation.
Posted By: Zed Re: How do you native speakers pronounce: - 12/26/07 07:32 AM
I wonder why the quotation marks ( to some, the more 'correct' pronunciation.) Shouldn't the people who live there get to choose what they want as the correct pronunciation?
Posted By: tsuwm Re: How do you native speakers pronounce: - 12/26/07 08:28 AM
>I wonder why the quotation marks..

I think it's because (as we've seen) the entire concept of 'correct' pronunciation is on pretty shaky ground.

-joe (but I'm uncertain about this) friday
Posted By: zmjezhd Re: How do you native speakers pronounce: - 12/26/07 03:37 PM
For Caribbean, I use both /,kærə'bijən/ and /kə'rɪbijən/. For nativity, I say /nə'tɪvɪtiː/, but I commonly hear /nej'tɪvɪtiː/.
Posted By: of troy Re: How do you native speakers pronounce: - 12/26/07 03:48 PM
what he said!
Come to think of it, I've heard kuhRIBeeuhn a lot too

Anyone know why this morning I can't edit my post above
Posted By: BranShea Re: How do you native speakers pronounce: - 12/27/07 05:43 PM
Dale,your above post is from 12/20. It now is 12/27.
You can only edit for 3600 minutes. We've had this point before.
I can't really well calculate, so some days.
Aha
Posted By: Jackie Re: How do you native speakers pronounce: - 01/02/08 02:44 PM
You can only edit for 3600 minutes. I had forgotten that, though I have a vague memory of seeing it mentioned before. I never thought about it, because my screen shows that I can edit anybody's any time. So, if anyone wants me to edit an old post for them, holler.
(For the newer people: no, I do not just go and "fix" posts, censor them, etc. Though a few times it's been tempting.)
Posted By: Sparteye Re: How do you native speakers pronounce: - 01/20/08 03:45 AM
Hey, Jackie! How about editing all my posts from 2002, to make me sound smart?

Posted By: Jackie Re: How do you native speakers pronounce: - 01/21/08 02:17 AM
Noah--u haz no trublz widat.
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