Perusing my 2003 Writer's market would seem to confirm that in this day and age when sending rockets to the moon got to be so easy we quit doing it, that the Publishing Industry is glacially backward inasmuch as they're still asking for your MS in printed form by snailmail:
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Dale, this seems to me an attempt to recruit from AWAD talk board on your part. I am not amused. Yours was the initial post on that board. If you wanted to discuss it here, why didn't you copy and paste your post here instead of linking to Wordcraft. I assume you know some of the history that prompts me to post this. If not we can discuss it by pm.
Con: Forgive me. The rules vary from one board to another. In WC it is bad form to link to WS, but I just simply didn't realize the converse was also true
I thought I was being considerate by providing a link instead of copying the entire thread
How did this mutual antagonism arise
Forgive me for bubbling this one back up, I won't make it a habit, but would anyone care to addres the question immediately above
Dale:
Basically, the person who later started that other board attempted to destroy this board (his stated intention was to "nuke" it, IIRC.) He was eventually barred, but only after causing huge amounts of strife, being on the borderline of stalking people who were attending an AWAD get-together, and generally making life miserable for those of us who have been around for some time.
I personally stayed away from the board for several months because of this person, and would prefer not to dwell upon it further, as the memories are less than healthful.
It would be best, quite frankly, if we refrained from further elucidation of this in public. If you require further information, I will reluctantly help you search the archives so you can see on your own what happened. I'd prefer not to, so unless you have some need to know other than curiosity, I suggest that we all move on to better topics.
dale this is at least the third thread you have "bubbled back up" when we were letting it die a natural death.
you say this won't be a habit, but its sure looks like this is becoming habitual behavior.
I must be a really terrible person
No Dale, less sensitive or even non-responsive is not terrible... but certainly frustrating as well as a bit confusing... repetition usually is a good teacher. I was also in the middle of that which OfTroy is a lot more sensitive to (than me), and although I currently couldn't give a flying rats booty about what happened then, I wouldn't ignore the effect it had or has.
peace
Dale, I gave you the answer to that question by PM. You read it, you responded to it and it was essencially what TEd wrote, was it not? Now, leave it alone.
TEd, mus, con: Goodness, as Rummy might respond, I had no intention of offending or raising hackles. I wasn't sure about the linking and had no idea that bubbling was obscene (no pun)
and con, yes I probably did but don't hold it against me (again, no pun) as I don't keep copies of my PM's and even if I did I doubt if I would go back and reread them all every time I wrote a followup. Life's too short and I'm too old
The WWW seems a hotbed of hostitlity
Why
The WWW seems a hotbed of hostitlity
Why
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gee, i don't know, maybe because you rub salt in our wounds and call it gentle teasing. and then say, what, that hurts? how i am supposted to know?
and when we point out that we've told you, (not once, but repeatedly, you respond, gee, am i supposed to remember that?
well yes, you are. if you can't, and are some sort of idiot, say so. but you seem at times to be a reasonable person. (somehow you remember your threads and bubble them back up, but at the same time you can't remember the rules? sounds like a very selective memory.
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and con, yes I probably did but don't hold it against me
I do hold it against you that you asked a question for which I took the time to provide an answer to and then you proceeded as if I had never answered your question. That is unconscionably rude. Just who do you want to answer your question, then, if not one of the people that was here at the time? Could it be that private discussion of this topic is not what you are after? If so, that is being insensitive to the people that are still here that suffered most ( Jackie being one) from the experience. I hope that this makes it through your feeble-old-man understanding and that we will never see another link to Wordcrafters or another refernce from you on this subject. After all, you are not a three year old.
When my children were young, I worked with them so that they could understand right from wrong. When they did something wrong, I explained to them what they had done wrong and why it was wrong. When they repeated the behavior, I reminded them that we had discussed the whats and whys the last time, refreshed their memories and told them what the consequences would be if they repeated the behavior yet again. Consider yourself warned and prepare to drop trou if you repeat this behavior again. 
con, helen, TEd: I vaguely remembered your replies but not specifically that it was you who sent them since I've received so many similar complaints from so many diverse quarters. Spending hours every day sucking the screen I can't remember each thread, followup, or email in fine detail and chronological order by its sender
I'm terribly sorry if you were offended and I shall endeavor to mend my ways, minimizing persiflage and avoiding OT. But my goodness, why get so bent out of shape on such a trivial matter in a world of calumny, terror, pending world wars, political turmoil, macaca confusion, disease, wholesale death, ethnic and religious conflict, environmental degradation, overpopulation, injustice of every kind
Love ya
Oops, forgot, no persiflage
But please don't drop me, at least not yet, until I determine whether I'm able to change. I dearly love WS (really, I do) and would miss it sorely
y'know, maybe there really is a dalebot.
-ron o.
After all, I'm just the messenger
After all, I'm just the messenger
and who's message are you delivering?
WHY YOUR VERY OWN.
don't piss on my leg and say "it's raining".
Haven't poked my nose in here for quite a while ... nice to see everyone's getting on so well. Bye!
Nice to hear from you, Capfka, how are you maturing?
Milo
please don't drop me, at least not yet, until I determine whether I'm able to change. I have to say now, Dale, that when I read Capfka's post my first impulse was to ask you to leave immediately*: his contributions here have been wonderful, and I miss him greatly. He indicated a long time ago that he didn't like the controversy that was here some time back; so he "pokes his nose in" and finds it again, and leaves again. And who is at the center of this controversy? You.
*Fortunately, I have learned at times to not follow my first impulses.
I am an extremely patient person, but the decision of a friend to leave has put me pretty much to the end of my limit. At the moment, I am willing to believe that you are not deliberately trying to cause trouble; perhaps you simply didn't believe how serious the requests were; not just in this thread but in other threads and PM's, too. I am also willing for now to believe that you really do have difficulties in remembering. But I am strongly suggesting to you that you find some way to remember what not only others, but you yourself, have said. You repeatedly bring up what others have asked you not to; you repeat questions that have already been answered. I am also of the belief that you do not wish to be an annoyance. So--please try to keep some sort of record you can refer to, since according to several of your posts your mind isn't adequate for this. Possibly you could limit yourself to participating in just one board; make yourself some notes; do something, whatever it is. Several people here have gone to a good deal of trouble to accommodate you and your questions; it would be really nice if you could try and accommodate them.