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Posted By: belligerentyouth Odd spam language - 05/24/06 07:10 PM
Has anyone ever noticed how it seems wordsmiths are at work when writing the subject lines of spam nowadays. I assume it is party due to ever better mail filtering software that the spamers seem to use more and more obscure language in the e-mail headers. One I received recently reads 'unextinctness further'. Any explanations or other examples?
Posted By: zmjezhd Re: Odd spam language - 05/24/06 07:48 PM
Spammers are trying to use language that could be by combining morphemes at random and the resulting words into phrases, the better to defeat bayesian filters that many of us use to put spam in its rightful place, the trashcan. It works to a degree.
Posted By: Father Steve Re: Odd spam language - 05/24/06 10:58 PM
bayesian filters

Whuzzat?
Posted By: zmjezhd Re: Odd spam language - 05/24/06 11:19 PM
Article on bayesian filtering.
Posted By: Father Steve Re: Odd spam language - 05/25/06 11:56 PM
That is a thoroughly interesting article. It raises the spectre of allowing someone else to determine which words in my messages are most likely Spam words -- e.g. if I wrote a lot of e-mail about Viagra or about refinancing -- and that disconcerts.
Posted By: tsuwm Re: Odd spam language - 05/26/06 02:47 AM
I've had the misfortune to have several of my daily mailings flagged as spam by ~cop or ~assassin for containing words that merely contain possibly offensive *memes. also, I once was flagged for including the word "God" in a citation from one of William F. Buckley's books.

I don't think I'd use the word assassin in a mailing, even were I to find a *really obscure term for assassin in the OED.
Posted By: dalehileman Re: Odd spam language - 05/26/06 02:32 PM
Father: Aren't you going to get after tsu for the tilde
Posted By: Myridon Re: Odd spam language - 05/26/06 03:11 PM
Quote:

Father: Aren't you going to get after tsu for the tilde



I volunteer!

Which do you think is better Re: Odd spam languageassassin or Re: Odd spam languagecop?
While we're at it what's *meme and *really about?
Posted By: maverick Re: Odd spam language - 05/26/06 04:11 PM
I guess for anyone who sets out to deliberately misunderstand, anything's possible. For the rest of us the tilde clearly acts as a stand-in for the key phrase under discussion (in this instance 'spam').

*This is a local convention used in a semi-jocular shorthand for italicisation or other vocal emphasis. Every speech community accretes its own slang and customs. What can I say? - get over it. [/shrug]
Posted By: tsuwm what mav said.. - 05/26/06 05:22 PM
or,
*emPHAsis
*EMPHASIS*
footnote*

*see?
Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: La Cocina - 05/26/06 08:01 PM
> For the rest of us the tilde clearly acts as a stand-in for the key phrase under discussion

yeah, but we've given dale a hard time about using it. I thought tsu's tongue was firmly planted en chic...
Posted By: Myridon Re: Odd spam language - 05/26/06 08:48 PM
Quote:

*This is a local convention used in a semi-jocular shorthand for italicisation or other vocal emphasis. Every speech community accretes its own slang and customs. What can I say? - get over it. [/shrug]




_Sorry_, I've been a member of this "speech community" for quite some time now, and somehow this meme didn't get accreted on to me yet. Where I'm from _this_ is emphasis, in case you ever visit my speech community.
Posted By: Faldage Re: Odd spam language - 05/26/06 10:02 PM
To be a little more specific the single leading asterisk signifies a *slight emphasis rather than the *strong* emphasis indicated by the combined leading and trailing asterisks. This is what tsuwm was getting at with his slightly cryptic *emPHAsis and *EMPHASIS*.
Posted By: maverick Re: Odd spam language - 05/26/06 10:25 PM
Quite right, Myr - I would expect to learn the custom, just like visiting _any_ new territory. I perhaps assumed too much in figuring the meta-reference to the [/shrug] code would suggest no heavy hand was intended but.

As to giving Dale a hard time (apart from the fact it's obviously mandatory!) I had got the impression his usage of the tilde was *singularly opaque, having often omitted to make entirely clear what the reference point was.
Posted By: Faldage Re: Odd spam language - 05/26/06 11:22 PM
Quote:

his usage of the tilde was *singularly opaque, having often omitted to make entirely clear what the reference point was.




In some contexts it's standard usage. One can hardly fault someone for using something he considers standard usage.
Posted By: tsuwm Re: Odd spam language - 05/26/06 11:51 PM
>In some contexts it's standard usage. One can hardly fault someone for using something he considers standard usage.

the context where I've seen tilde used in this fashion is in dictionaries (representing the headword). which this ain't.
Posted By: Father Steve Re: Odd spam language - 05/27/06 05:49 AM
Gosh. I thought tsuwm was making fun of Dale when he used the tilde.
Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: Odd pate language - 05/27/06 10:48 AM
> tsuwm was making fun

> I thought tsu's tongue was firmly planted en chic...

yup.
Posted By: maverick Re: tilde eth do us part - 05/27/06 10:40 PM
Time and tilde wait for gnomon.
Posted By: TEd Remington Re: tilde eth do us part - 05/28/06 06:55 AM
Ack. You're just a shadow of yourself!
Posted By: Jackie Re: gnomon - 05/29/06 01:13 PM
gnomon
"pillar that tells time by the shadow it casts, esp. on a sundial," 1546, from L. gnomon, from Gk. gnomon "indicator," lit. "one who discerns," from gignoskein "to come to know" (see gnostic).


Online Etymology Dictionary
Posted By: Father Steve Re: gnomon - 05/30/06 12:07 AM
gnomon = A miniature hunch-backed man who lives under bridges in Jamaica.
Posted By: TEd Remington Re: gnomon - 05/30/06 10:40 PM
And collects trolls?
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