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Posted By: wsieber rare phoneme - 12/18/00 02:44 PM
Surprisingly enough, even after a fair amount of reflection, I could not find a word that alliterates nicely with Tuesday i.e. which, in speech, has the same initial sound combination of consonant and vowel. Can anybody find one?

Posted By: maverick Re: rare phoneme - 12/18/00 03:27 PM
To-use a liberty, Tuetonic?

Posted By: NicholasW Re: rare phoneme - 12/18/00 04:41 PM
tubular, tutor, tumescent, tulip, Turing machine, tune...?

Or is there some non-standard aspect of your pronunciation which defeats these? (They work whether you say [tju:] or[tu:].)

Posted By: Father Steve Re: rare phoneme - 12/19/00 12:05 AM
When the Moody Blues sing it, it comes out "Chewsday afternoon."



Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: rare phoneme - 12/19/00 03:17 AM
Father Steve comments: When the Moody Blues sing it, it comes out "Chewsday afternoon."

Yes! Which precedes yet another knight in white satin, no doubt.

Posted By: Bridget Re: rare phoneme - 12/19/00 09:28 AM
"Chewsday afternoon."

Chewsday is of course the day you feed the parrots Polly-styrene. On other days they just get Polly-filler.

Posted By: NicholasW Re: rare phoneme - 12/19/00 11:07 AM
I stand corrected, but my list still works whether it's pronounced with [tju:] or [tu:] or [tSu:], since if one is, they all are, n'est-ce pas?

Posted By: Max Quordlepleen . - 12/19/00 08:15 PM


Posted By: wsieber Re: rare phoneme - 12/20/00 08:11 AM
Thank you for the examples, I agree that, as alliteration goes, they would all fit in (I pronounce "tju..", maybe with the exception of tumescent). What I forgot to mention: it should be a word (e.g adjective) that makes sense with "Tuesday". A tubular Tuesday - well, maybe one which you spend in a blocked London "Tube" train?

Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: rare phoneme - 12/20/00 08:22 AM
A tubular Tuesday - well, maybe one which you spend in a blocked London "Tube" train?

There's web site for those with tube woes: http://www.tubehell.com/

Posted By: shanks Re: rare phoneme - 12/20/00 09:13 AM
On Tuesday tuitions, our Terence tore his hair
"Oh tubular Tuesday blues!" said he, a-tottering tetchily
"Why choose Tuesday?", he masticated portlily
"A thorough Thursday, now, beats Tuesday's tumescence
But Tuesday's juices, they just don't jive."

(Taken from The loneliness of training for the sexual Olympics. Reprinted by kind permission of the author,
Shiva Lingam)

Posted By: jmh Re: rare phoneme - 12/20/00 01:09 PM
>but pronounce tuna with [tu:]

'fraid tuna is chewna where I come from. I chew chewna sandwiches on chewsdays. All the same.

Posted By: tsuwm Re: rare phoneme - 12/20/00 01:24 PM
"Tubular Tuesday" at Campland... only 5 min. from Sea World!

or, how about 'toothsome Tuesday'?

Posted By: emanuela Re: rare phoneme - 12/20/00 01:36 PM
If you spend your Tuesday on a tubular train...
where will you go on Wednesday... and so on?
Emanuela



Posted By: shanks If it's Tuesday - 12/20/00 01:44 PM
If you spend your Tuesday on a tubular train...
where will you go on Wednesday... and so on?


Wednesday on a wierd wen
Thursday on a thorough thrashing
Friday on a freezing fridge
...

Posted By: tsuwm Re: If it's Tuesday - 12/20/00 01:56 PM
>wierd wen

weird?
wired??
wife's???
wie geht's?!
what? (sorry, just one of those weird whims)


Posted By: wwh Re: rare phoneme - 02/02/02 03:33 PM
Dear Shanks: I was fascinated to discover title you mentioned: "Training for the Sexual Olympics". I have never been able to figure out an acceptable way of judging such Olympics. I queried Capitol Kiwi about it and he got upset.

Posted By: Faldage Re: rare phoneme - 02/02/02 03:59 PM
could not find a word that alliterates nicely with Tuesday ...has the same initial sound combination of consonant and vowel.

Alliteration does not require matching vowel sounds. Not sure whether nice alliteration does.

If you pronounced Tuesday correctly (i.e., carefully) you could alliterate it with, e.g., tamarind.

Posted By: Max Quordlepleen . - 02/02/02 05:52 PM
Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: rare phoneme - 02/02/02 06:08 PM
No, no, over the Hill, surely ...

Posted By: Keiva Re: capitol offense - 02/02/02 06:29 PM
I queried Capitol Kiwi
You know a NZer working on the hill?


Given the subject of the dicussion, dr. bill was merely avoiding a form whose nearer root might take us off on another route:

capital: from caput, head
capitol: from Capitolium, temple of Jupiter on the Capitoline hill


Posted By: wwh Re: capitol offense - 02/02/02 06:48 PM
Sorry about the typo, CK. Do you still get upset about the difficulty of judging the Sexual Olympics?

Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: capitol offense - 02/02/02 10:41 PM
Do you still get upset about the difficulty of judging the Sexual Olympics?

I never was upset, just flummoxed. I couldn't enter anyway, because I'd need performance-enhancing drugs ...

Posted By: wwh Re: capitol offense - 02/02/02 11:00 PM
Dear CK: I never challeged you to compete, I challenged you to devise a method of judging. How would you decide which participant had the most meritorious performance?

Posted By: belMarduk Re: capitol offense - 02/03/02 12:33 AM
Is there anyplace I can go on the net to listen to these variations of the pronunciation of TU as TJU (which I can't imagine since T is a breathe-out sound and J is a breathe-in sound) and CHEW

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