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Posted By: wofahulicodoc Initial Impressions - 01/21/03 03:02 PM
MOVING THIS INTO A NEW THREAD, SO AS TO LEAVE MOTCHING UNHIJACKED

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Subject: Department of Correction
Posted by wofahulicodoc (old hand)
Posted on Mon Jan 20 17:13:22 2003


Several years ago there was a spate of popularity for a game generally referred to as "Equation Analysis," the paradigm being "26 = L in the A" and the challenge being to expand the initials to make a more-or-less correct equation, thus: "26 = Letters in the Alphabet". Or "54 = C in a D (with the J)", expanding to "54 Cards in a Deck (with the Jokers)."

This led Sid McKeen, a Worcester columnist, and others, I'm sure to run a series of such contests from time to time, each a list of twenty-six examples, take-you-out-to-lunch for a prize.

He wisely took the precaution of including in the instructions for readers this bit of wisdom:
"The correct answers are what is written on a slip of paper
kept in the upper right-hand drawer of my desk"
or words to that effect.
And without taking any of the fun out of the exercise, I might add...

Oh yes, and he also invited readers to send in their own examples. Any takers?
Maybe a new thread? Is the name "Equation Analysis" copyrighted?



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Subject Re: Department of Correction
Posted by Wordwind (Carpal Tunnel)
Posted on Mon Jan 20 17:19:35 2003


So, if I read you correctly 5280 = F in a M?

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Subject: Initial Impressions
Posted by wofahulicodoc (old hand)
Posted on Mon Jan 20 21:06:18 2003


So, if I read you correctly 5280 = F in a M?

Precisely so. But things can get a little more obscure:

88 = P K

or

3 B M = S H T R

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Subject Re: Initial Impressions
Posted by Wordwind (Carpal Tunnel)
Posted on Mon Jan 20 21:24:29 2003


8 P of a S
43 P of A
206 B in a S
1776 M in the D

...good game.

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Subject Re: Initial Impressions
Posted by wofahulicodoc (old hand)
Posted on Mon Jan 20 21:50:23 2003



8 P of a S
43 P of A
206 B in a S
1776 M in the D


Let's see, now.

I know 8 S on a S S, but not yours.
I know 76 T that L the B P, but not yours
I know 206 B in the B, and also in a S, 'cause it's about the same thing.
I don't know 43 P of Anything yet. Have to think about that one.

(I put some answers in I & A in the "Answers to Puzzles" thread for viewing if needed..)
Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: Initial Impressions - 01/21/03 03:08 PM
110 C R B

Posted By: TheFallibleFiend Re: Initial Impressions - 01/21/03 03:43 PM

I love these kinds of puzzles.

Interesting thing happened when I was solving a group of them amongst some netizens about 20 years ago. One of the problems was 4 = LC.

I thought the answer was obviously "Lowest Composite."

The psych major who initiated the thread of discussion gave me credit, but she pointed out that I was the only one among the respondents who didn't even think of the 'more obvious' answer.

Another thing: I was the only one who didn't get 76 = T in the BP.



k


Posted By: TheFallibleFiend Re: Initial Impressions - 01/21/03 03:58 PM

Jerry (of Tom and Jerry) would know this one - 88 = PK

He might even have some, er, insight on 3BM = SHTR

k



Posted By: dxb Re: Initial Impressions - 01/21/03 04:49 PM
OK, I give up - you're all too clever for me. I can only get less than half of those, where are you all going to put the answers?

How about:
1MPM = 60??? = 88FPS
3M in a B
4H of the A
4P of the C
12 on a J
12D of C
13 = BD
14S of the C
15M on a DMC
16T and WDYG
24 = HTT


Posted By: rav Re: Initial Impressions - 01/21/03 05:17 PM
sounds interesting, but i don't get it some answers please...

Posted By: wofahulicodoc Re: Initial Impressions - 01/21/03 05:38 PM
I put some answers in I & A in the "Answers to Puzzles" thread for viewing if needed.

Feel free to access as wanted, and to add your own answers if you solve one!



Posted By: wofahulicodoc Re: Initial Impressions - 01/21/03 05:43 PM
Jerry (of Tom and Jerry)...might even have some, er, insight on 3BM = SHTR

For instructional purposes:

1MPM = 60??? = 88FPS translates as

1 Mile per Minute = 60 miles per hour = 88 feet per second




Posted By: wofahulicodoc Re: Initial Impressions - 01/21/03 06:14 PM
3 M in a B = rub-a-dub dub ... no, that's in a Tub, not a Bathtub
4 H of the A = horsemen
4 P of the C = points of the compass?
12 on a J = (haven't a clue)
12 D of C : days of Christmas
13 = B D : the so-called Nadia (with a British accent) of Boulanger (with a French accent)
14 S of the C: is that Stations of the Cross?
15 M on a D M C: Y H H and a B of R
16 T and WDY G: (credit to Ernie Ford, please)
24 = H T T = (no clue here either)

How about

30 S over T
7 B for 7 B
7 W of the A W
7 H of R
3 C in the F
Posted By: tsuwm Re: Initial Impressions - 01/21/03 06:45 PM
3 M in a B = in a boat?
24 = H T T = hours 'til tomorrow :-/

Posted By: musick Re: Initial Impressions - 01/21/03 06:51 PM
7 B for 7 B

Seven brides for seven brothers

3 L on 1 M D in a W H

Posted By: wwh Re: Initial Impressions - 01/21/03 07:07 PM
15M on a DMC = Treasure Island ditty?

Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: Initial Impressions - 01/21/03 10:36 PM
13 = B D : the so-called Nadia (with a British accent) of Boulanger (with a French accent)

Por favor, io can nyet verstehen. Explanação, s'il vous plait?

Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: Initial Impressions - 01/21/03 10:39 PM
Anna, you deserve a dunkin'...



Posted By: wofahulicodoc Re: Initial Impressions - 01/21/03 11:01 PM
3 = B D : the so-called Nadia (with a British accent) of Boulanger (with a French accent)
Por favor, io can nyet verstehen. Explanação, s'il vous plait?


Your polyglot may be even more appropriate than you intended!

13 = B D ---> 13 = Baker's Dozen

One band on a very old humor record (The Hoffnung Interplanetary Music Festival) has a couple of ersatz German Professors talking about music.

Twelve-tone music.

By a fictitious composer named Bruno Heinz Jaja, who wrote only in pure twelve-tone. (That's pronounced "Ya-ya," in ersatz German.)

Never tempted, like some of the Franzoesiche Komponisten French composers, to write with thirteen tones.

No, said Jaja, that was the Baker's Dozen, the Nadia of Boulanger. (Nadir=lowest point, sounds like "nadia" in British-accented-fake-German); boulanger is French for baker; Nadia Boulanger was a French music teacher and conductor of some repute*. Triple pun; three languages, no less. Ha-ha. Or maybe that's Jaja, only in Spanish. Quadruple pun.

*"So far as musical pedagogy is concerned — and by extension of musical creation — Nadia Boulanger is the most influential person who ever lived". (from www.nadiaboulanger.org)


I guess you had to be there. The sketch is really quite funny, as is the whole record. It's Peter Shickele/PDQ Bach, British style. There were three such annual festivals, each recorded, and then Hoffnung (the Hirschfeld of his time and nation) died suddenly. R.I.P both of them.

Edit: The specific reference is to

"Bruno Heinz JAJA - Punkt Contrapunkt [9’04"]
Hoffnung Symphony Orchestra conducted by Norman Del Mar

The performance of this work is preceded by a discussion and analysis of it by Dr Klaus Domgraf-Fassbaender and Prof. von der Vogelweide."

See dxb's URL below !




Posted By: Wordwind Re: Initial Impressions - 01/21/03 11:07 PM
43 P of A

43 presidents of America (Grover Cleveland was the 22nd and 24th, so he gets two hits)-- suppose I should have shown it as:

43 P of US, but that would given it away immediately

1776 M of D

1776 miles of Danube

Here are some easy ones:

9 P of SS
12 P of CS
32 O in Q
1 M of E
7 S in BD

Posted By: Faldage Re: Initial Impressions - 01/22/03 01:26 AM
Nadia Boulanger

I know a couple of modern American composers who didn't study under Nadia Boulanger.

Posted By: wofahulicodoc Re: Initial Impressions - 01/22/03 01:30 AM
Oh, I didn't say I agreed with the sentiment. That's the reason it's in yellow. Did you catch the source? Might the author perhaps be just a litt-ul bit biased?

Posted By: Faldage Re: Initial Impressions - 01/22/03 11:09 AM
agreed with the sentiment.

Sometimes it seems like everybody who has composed the least ad jingle has studied under the Nadia.

Posted By: dxb Re: Initial Impressions - 01/22/03 11:58 AM
Hoffnung (the Hirschfeld of his time and nation)Wofa

A truly funny and gifted man. His concerto for three vacuum cleaners and a floor polisher and the manner in which he read the ‘Barrel of Bricks’ piece at the Oxford Union in 1958 are great examples of the comic genius he brought to music and the spoken word. He was also a talented cartoonist.

If you would like to know more, at least of his musical work, try this url:
http://www.musicweb.uk.net/classrev/2002/Nov02/HoffnungConcerts.htm


Posted By: RhubarbCommando Re: Initial Impressions - 01/22/03 01:12 PM
You're right, dxb - Hoffnung was the greatest. I can still hear his competition at the 3rd IF - Spot the Brandenburg. All of the Bach-buffs got out their pens and papers to take part - and he played a composite of the 6 concerti where each excerpt lasted for a maximum of 12 seconds. The whole piece lasted about four minutes, by which time the Bach-buffs had looked highly embarrassed, then were roaring with laughter, along with the rest of us.
Hoffnung was also a gifted cartoonist. What a man - what a loss.

But back to serious matters - I've managed about a quarter of the above, so see what you can do with these:

1 SDM a S
(alternatively, with regard to the next equation; 1 SDS a P)
8 P in a G
59 BSS(FG)
45 M per H in F
80 D to GR the W
160 HDS


Posted By: Wordwind Post deleted by Wordwind - 01/22/03 01:34 PM
Posted By: RhubarbCommando Re: Initial Impressions - 01/22/03 03:47 PM
You win a coconut, Dub-dub !!

Posted By: dxb Re: Initial Impressions - 01/22/03 05:18 PM
I wish I could get the answers to these the way Wofa does. When I look at them my mind goes blank!

Wofa got most of my last offering, but tsuwm and wwh were right with 3 Men in a Boat.

24 = HTT is 24 hours to Tulsa
12 on a J is 12 on a jury (bit weak really)

WW goes in for one-upmanship by saying “Here are some easy ones”. Huh! 32 O in Q, yes OK, but the rest? No way José.

A few more 'simple' ones here (as WW would say!)

3 C in the F
7 C of the R
12 S of the Z
4 C of the E
101 Ds
1814 WTaLTAWCJDtheMM
86400 S = 1440 M = 1 D
103 E in the PT
50 S in the U


Posted By: wofahulicodoc Re: Initial Impressions - 01/22/03 06:45 PM
103 E in the PT

Is that one behind the times? I seem to recall at least 104 and 105, though they didn't have "approved" names.

(And as long as we're talking about humorous satire for the moment -

"These are the only ones of which the news has come to Harvard,
And there may be many others but they haven't been discovered!"
-- Tom Lehrer)

Posted By: Wordwind Post deleted by Wordwind - 01/22/03 11:20 PM
Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: Initial Impressions - 01/22/03 11:30 PM
1814 WTaLTAWCJDtheMMIn 1814 we took a little trip along with Col Jackson down the mighty Mississip.

Posted By: tsuwm Re: Initial Impressions - 01/22/03 11:30 PM
3 C in the F three coins in the fountain
12 S of the Z twelve signs of the zodiac
101 Ds 101 spotted dogs
1814 WTaLTAWCJDtheMM war of 1814, tripping with Colonel Jackson on the mississippi
103 E in the PT 103 elements in the periodic table
50 S in the U 50 states in the union


Posted By: Wordwind Post deleted by Wordwind - 01/22/03 11:35 PM
Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: Initial Impressions - 01/22/03 11:49 PM
coagulated

eewww... I never do such things in public, WW, shame on you, bless your heart.

Posted By: Wordwind Post deleted by Wordwind - 01/22/03 11:58 PM
Posted By: TEd Remington Some others: - 01/23/03 12:56 AM
4S&7Y
8 K named H
7 D in M
M 18
1 FO the CN
2 4 the SS
3 on a M
3 F of E
BF 8
3 P in a HG
7 I in a SBG
S 13
7 A M
8 is E
84 CCR
39 S
10 L I
10 N F
12 A M




Posted By: Wordwind Post deleted by Wordwind - 01/23/03 01:00 AM
Posted By: TEd Remington Re: Some others: - 01/23/03 01:09 AM
Er, isn't it 6???

Posted By: dxb Re: Initial Impressions - 01/23/03 10:35 AM
Is that one behind the times? I seem to recall at least 104 and 105, though they didn't have "approved" names.

You may be right Wofa, I did check several places, but still…

I like the Tom Lehrer couplet – hadn’t heard it before. Reminds me that I have always been baffled by the use of “Pahk the kah on Hahvahd Yahd” as an example of Bostonese. Having been there I do understand the underlying joke, but I have to conclude that I would pronounce the phrase in the same way as in the example. That leaves me wondering how else you could pronounce it? I must get one of my American colleagues to demonstrate.


Posted By: dxb Re: Some others: - 01/23/03 11:06 AM
4S&7Y
8 K named H Kings named Henry
7 D in M Days in may
M 18
1 FO the CN cuckoo’s nest
2 4 the SS
3 on a M
3 F of E faces of eve
BF 8 butterfield
3 P in a HG
7 I in a SBG
S 13
7 A M
8 is E
84 CCR Charing Cross Road
39 S steps
10 L I little indians
10 N F
12 A M angry men


Posted By: AnnaStrophic Irony - 01/23/03 12:39 PM
...That leaves me wondering how else you could pronounce it? I must get one of my American colleagues to demonstrate.

Hey! I'm American, and I understood that!

~~
P.S. My periodic table place mat (!) shows 109 elements, but I think those past 103 are still theoretical.

Posted By: dxb Re: Irony - 01/23/03 12:57 PM
Hey! I'm American, and I understood that!

Hmmm. Let's see...click click...'upstate Noo York'...well, how come you speak Boston then? I went to Olean once and they didn't speak Boston there .

Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: Irony - 01/23/03 01:28 PM
Ahem. Let me put on my epexegesis cap. Y'all Brits like to say that irony is dead in the U.S. It may be, but there are still a few of us who "get" it. Comprende, amigo?

Posted By: dxb Re: Irony - 01/23/03 04:42 PM
Yeah, but I were just pullin' yer leg missus. You go throwin' them long words at me an' I gets all confused like. Us eng'neers, we uses irony all the time. Cast irony, pig irony, wrought irony...

Posted By: musick Re: Some others: - 01/23/03 04:58 PM
3 on 1 M

...is kinda like...

3 L on 1 M D in a W H

...without all the consequences.

Posted By: WhitmanO'Neill Re: Some others: - 01/23/03 05:21 PM
76 Ts 76 Trombones

1001 A Ns 1001 Arabian Nights

B 9 S Beethoven's 9th Synphony

1 I A 1,000,000 One in a million

106 C R B 106 cornets right behind!

Posted By: Faldage Re: Some others: - 01/23/03 05:26 PM
17 MR of AFT

Posted By: Jackie Re: Irony - 01/23/03 06:32 PM
Engineers using Cast irony, pig irony, wrought irony... Ohmigawd! I am rolling on the floor, laughing! Ha, ha! That was great! Yes, indeedy, certain other female types of the NY persuasion better keep their paws off you...


Posted By: Buffalo Shrdlu Re: Some others: - 01/23/03 08:19 PM
106 C R B 106 cornets right behind!

hey, go chop your own liver! and it's 110!



Posted By: Wordwind Post deleted by Wordwind - 01/23/03 09:11 PM
Posted By: wofahulicodoc answers - 01/23/03 10:03 PM
(I put some answers in the I&A forum under the thread titled "Answers to Puzzles" - feel free to browse!)

Posted By: Jackie Re: Some others: - 01/23/03 11:54 PM
You know, et, that's a lot of brass! I will not say it , I will NOT say it ...

Posted By: Alex Williams Re: Some others: - 01/24/03 12:50 AM
4S&7Y score and seven years...
8 is E 8 is enough

CBT 12
F 10 FN
8 MO
D 12 BB


Posted By: TEd Remington F 10 FN - 01/24/03 08:48 PM
F 10 FN Sunday, the one day......

Posted By: wofahulicodoc Now We Are Three - 01/25/03 01:34 AM
3 = A at which J J W W W G duP T G C of his M

Hint (if you want one): duP = duPree

Posted By: wofahulicodoc Re: Now We Are Three - 01/30/03 04:00 PM
3 = A at which J J W W W G duP T G C of his M

3 = Age at which... (see below):

James James
Wellington Wellington
Weatherby George duPree
Took good care of his Mother
Though he was only three


It's from Winnie the Pooh, Now We Are Six, I think (maybe it's from The House at Pooh Corner?)

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