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Posted By: Sparteye The Fatal Barberchair - 01/14/02 03:38 PM
I recently stumbled across a dictionary full of intriguing terms. Without googling, does anybody want to take a guess at why a "barberchair" would be dangerous?

Posted By: wwh Re: The Fatal Barberchair - 01/14/02 04:28 PM
How about Sweeney Todd, barber purveyor of meat pies with fingernails in them?

Posted By: of troy Re: The Fatal Barberchair - 01/14/02 05:15 PM
or from one of the other tasks often asigned to barbers-- "bleeding" or opening a vein as a medical treatment. (the red and white striped pole associated with barbers are said to represent a bleeding arm wrapped in gauze. )

barber's were an "alternative medical treatment"--when medical care seemed to be getting last right from the local priest.

Posted By: Jackie Re: The Fatal Barberchair - 01/14/02 05:22 PM
Well, my first reaction is that they look somewhat like electric chairs, but. Does it have something to do with the old-time razors that could easily cut a throat?

Posted By: Faldage Re: The Fatal Barberchair - 01/14/02 06:10 PM
Strictly speaking, in none of these examples is the barberchair itself fatal. I would suspect that the true answer would have something to do with the abilities of the chair to tip and rise.

It was Mrs. Lovett who purveyed the meat pies; Mr. Todd merely supplied her with the filling.

Posted By: tsuwm Re: The Fatal Barberchair - 01/14/02 06:18 PM
I immediately thought of MP's "lumberjack sketch", but then I was sorely disappointed when I didn't get the compleat 14-DVD set of Flying Circus for Christmas.

Posted By: wwh Re: The Fatal Barberchair - 01/14/02 07:22 PM
Dear Faldage: Had I not complied with the injunction not to google, I could have given Mrs. Lovett her due.
I read somewhere that Sweeney Todd had several real life counterparts.

Posted By: Sparteye Re: The Fatal Barberchair - 01/14/02 08:16 PM
You've walked along the wrong path. tsuwm has dropped a hint.

Posted By: Faldage Re: The Fatal Barberchair - 01/14/02 08:30 PM
Dear Dr. Bill

I din't look up nuthin bout no barberchairs. Jus oney the name of the purveyress of the meat pies. I knew it wern't no Sweeney Todd him what oney supplied the meat.

Posted By: wwh Re: The Fatal Barberchair - 01/14/02 08:59 PM
Dear Faldage:Apparently you are not a Monty Python fan either.

Posted By: Faldage Re: The Fatal Barberchair - 01/14/02 09:07 PM
not a Monty Python fan


Well, I am, but I don't remember anything about a barberchair.

Ain' seen all the shows tho.

Posted By: tsuwm Re: The Fatal Barberchair - 01/14/02 09:17 PM
http://www.pythonet.org/lumberjack.html

Posted By: Wordwind Re: The Fatal Barberchair - 01/14/02 09:37 PM
Ah, tsuwm, that was such a cute tale. I'll always remember:

Poofter! Bloody poofter!

I don't even know what a bloody poofter is, but it sounds like such a lovely bit of whimsy and fun!

Now, did barbers do medicine at one time?

And I've completely forgotten McTeague... He was a dentist? Wasn't he? Didn't he do some kind of surgery? Or maybe he was a barber. Was that why barbers' poles had red on 'em? Because of the blood?

Everything's becoming so mixed up in my brain. But I do like the sound of poofter.

Barber regards,
Wordwhirled

Posted By: wwh Re: The Fatal Barberchair - 01/14/02 11:27 PM
I think Sweeney Todd is funnier.

Dear WW: A man wanted a boy, his wife wanted a girl. They were both happy. Their offspring was a poofter. Meaning he had a marked problem with sexual identification.

Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: Looking up stuff - 01/15/02 12:20 AM
One can always look up stuff, even bloody poofters.

Posted By: wwh Re: Looking up stuff - 01/15/02 01:16 AM
You can find their websites and e-mail addresses if desired.And more.

Posted By: Wordwind Re: Looking up stuff - 01/15/02 09:20 AM
Sometimes I'm driven to look up stuff.

Sometimes it's more fun to see how things unfold here in our little AWAD garden.

Sometimes books and websites call.

Sometimes the fun of hearing what's in others' minds calls.

I think one of the best things that happens here is when people take their time to look things up for posters who are in the dark. Acts of kindness--and generosity.

But I will look up poofters today to read what's there in some dictionary??? Thanks, Bill--I got it (truthfully) from the context in the skit tsuwm linked us to, by the way--but it was the sound of the word that struck my whimsy. Men strutting about in poofed-up skirts--very high heels--great wigs--false eyelashes. Some of 'em do it by far better than I ever could!

Best regards,
WW

Posted By: Jackie Re: The Fatal Barberchair - 01/15/02 12:45 PM
Here's where you can hear The Lumberjack Song:
http://www.montypython.net/sketchsounds3.php
Scroll down to The Lumberjack Sketch. I like this version better, but am putting the following also, as there seem to be options for different sound players:
http://humor.about.com/library/sounds/blmp3.htm

And tsuwm, here's an alternative that should be of particular interest to you, my Dear :
http://www.cs.stir.ac.uk/~scu/Humour/Computing/notlumberjack.html

Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: The Fatal Barberchair - 01/15/02 09:15 PM
Ah, but didn't Michael Palin look magnificent?

Posted By: francais31415 Re: The Fatal Barberchair - 01/16/02 04:27 AM
Didn't the Barber of Seville kill his patients or something? Or am I thinking of another musical work?

Posted By: stales Re: The Fatal Barberchair - 01/16/02 06:20 AM
Rule 6 of MP's skit about Aussies was "NO POOFTERS". As I recall it was also rule number 7 or suchlike.

....I don't know.....anybody would think us Aussies were an uncultured and bigoted bunch of homophobic, sexist, beer swilling, Kiwi bashing, barbie loving, yobboish xenophobes. Check out the site Bean mentioned today in I&A and you'll find the truth!

sheesh

stales

Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: The Fatal Barberchair - 01/16/02 06:47 AM
Ah, Stales, but what about the Philosophy Department at the University of Woolloomalloo? Now there's an example of Aussie kulcha! Well, MP's take on it, anyway ...

Posted By: stales Down on the Docks - 01/16/02 07:17 AM
W-O-O-L-L-O-O-M-O-O-L-O-O Cap K!

Where they sip upon "Chateau Wagga Wagga - a fruity little number with the bouquet of an Aboriginal's arm pit".

stales

Posted By: Sparteye Re: The Fatal Barberchair - 01/16/02 05:26 PM
Despite tsuwm's most gallant efforts, nobody has come close to discerning the meaning of "barberchair" in the context I posed.

The term is from the Treeman's Dictionary, http://www.arborists.com/dictionary/terms1.htm, a glossary of terms used by arborists.

Barberchair (Felling) This can occur when the tree leans heavily and wants to fall before the feller has cut enough wood, causing the trunk to split up the middle, with the back section rising rapidly. (keep your chin clear), This can be a Very dangerous situation, many deaths can be attributed to the Barberchair. There are many ways to minimize this, a couple of suggestions are: 1) Allways use a Sharp saw. 2) Use a Chain and binder above your cut. 3) Use a boring technique on the backcut, (experts only) 4) Call an expert.

In addition to the term "barberchair" itself, I thought that "feller" was great. This is the only context in which I've seen or heard "feller" and it hasn't been a colloquial pronunciation of "fellow." The suggestion to use a boring technique also gave me giggles. [visions-of-distracted-lumberman emoticon]

Posted By: wofahulicodoc Abbott and Costello live ! - 01/16/02 06:18 PM
This is the only context in which I've seen or heard "feller" and it hasn't been a colloquial pronunciation of "fellow"

What about the Feller who pitches for the Cleveland Indans? (That would be about 1940 or so ?) (and has nothing to do with Who's on first, no, never, not)

Posted By: wwh Re: tree felling - 01/16/02 06:42 PM
Dear Sparteye: I looked up barberchair. Thank you. Never heard the term before. There is one other way loggers used to get killed. When some hardwood trees are felled with the butt cut with proper kerf, it falls on the branches, which bend and store a large amount of energy and then spring backl, driving the butt toward the logger foolish enough to be in line. Never heard a name for it though.

Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: Down on the Docks - 01/16/02 07:05 PM
W-O-O-L-L-O-O-M-O-O-L-O-O Cap K!

Hey, give us a break! I knew it had a load of "o"s and "l"s. So I lost a few. Do you think they'll really be missed?

Posted By: Jackie Re: The Fatal Barberchair - 01/17/02 12:19 PM
Wow, thanks, Sparteye. I've seen 'barberchairs' after the fact, and the name sure fits. I reckon their dictionary being written by arborists accounts for Allways.
And yep, that lumberjack there, he's quite a feller...

Posted By: wwh Re: The Fatal Barberchair - 01/17/02 08:46 PM
And poofters are fellatists.

Posted By: Wordwind Re: The Fatal Barberchair - 01/17/02 10:27 PM
Speaking of lumberjacks and fatal barberchairs and such, anybody ever hear of a ballhooter?

Me

Posted By: stales Re: The Fatal Barberchair - 01/18/02 06:51 AM
> And poofters are fellatists.

Maybe so - but the terms are not interchangeable. Poofter simply translates to "gay guy".

stales



Posted By: tsuwm Re: The Fatal Barberchair - 01/18/02 10:44 PM
>anybody ever hear of a ballhooter?

oh brutter, where art thou?

Posted By: AnnaStrophic Re: The Fatal Barberchair - 01/18/02 11:21 PM
And poofters are fellatists.

I knew one who was a philatelist.

Posted By: Capital Kiwi Re: The Fatal Barberchair - 01/18/02 11:31 PM
Now, that's really kinky. We'll have to stamp that out forthwith!

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